Bottles... Green VS Brown

marciofs · Dec 16, 2014

Are green bottles and good as Brown bottle in relation to light protection on developer, stopper and fixer?

Kevin Caulfield · Dec 16, 2014

Not really, but they are better than clear bottles.

marciofs · Dec 16, 2014

Thanks.

StoneNYC · Dec 16, 2014

According to someone who worked for Kodak for close to 50 years, there's no difference between an amber bottle or a clear bottle or any other color bottle. light does not affect the chemistry, only oxygen affects the chemistry, but even a clear bottle is just fine as long as it seals.

gone · Dec 16, 2014

If you keep your stuff under the sink or in a cabinet like most people, then even clear is OK, as light wouldn't get to it anyway.

Rick A · Dec 16, 2014

I prefer clear bottles, I can see at a glance if my developer has turned brown. I do store them in a closed cupboard out of the light (more so because it is out of my inquisitive 3yo grandsons sight)

marciofs · Dec 16, 2014

I am using corks on Pelegrino's Water bottles (Green) because it was the only one cheap 1L product with darker bottle.

I could buy wine bottles but since I don't drink it would be too much waist of money.

goros · Dec 16, 2014

Tomorrow I will collect about a dozen or so of brown bottles from a chemist friend (also a photographer), the ones that use to contain chemical products. They are for free so why not to use them?

winger · Dec 16, 2014

goros said:
Tomorrow I will collect about a dozen or so of brown bottles from a chemist friend (also a photographer), the ones that use to contain chemical products. They are for free so why not to use them?

Since they used to contain chemicals, be sure you know what chemicals and be absolutely sure the bottles are CLEAN before you put photo chemicals in them. That goes for any already used bottles.

goros · Dec 16, 2014

winger said:
Since they used to contain chemicals, be sure you know what chemicals and be absolutely sure the bottles are CLEAN before you put photo chemicals in them. That goes for any already used bottles.

Oh yes. My friend is taking care of that also

Mainecoonmaniac · Dec 16, 2014

I think brown bottles are theoretically the best. Brown, a sort of a red blocks shorter wave length blue light which has more energy to do damage. but if you keep your chemicals in the dark or under the sink as momus suggested it should be fine. I heard Charles Bamforth, a world authority in brew science talk about the best beer container. Mr. Bamforth said that light can damage beer so the best container for beer is a can. If glass bottles are used, brown bottles are preferred because it blocks damaging wavelengths of light. Green bottles are not good for beer because it allows light to cause a skunky aroma in beer. I don't know if this is related to photo chems, but it's fun trivia.

NedL · Dec 16, 2014

marciofs said:
I am using corks on Pelegrino's Water bottles (Green) because it was the only one cheap 1L product with darker bottle.

I could buy wine bottles but since I don't drink it would be too much waist of money.

I drink a lot of pelegrino and use the green bottles to store stock LPD and diafine, and a few other things. At some point I found tall/narrow black plastic bags the same size as the bottles, so now they sit in the garage inside the black plastic. I am careful to cross out the label and write in black ink that it is NOT water anymore!

Mainecoonmaniac · Dec 16, 2014

Being a wino, I use used wine bladders. It's double lined plastic inside a light proof cardboard box. Wine snobs cringe, but me as a photographer and wine lover it's the cat's meow. I store film developer in these bladders. As I use up the batch of developer, the bladder collapses leaving little or no air that could destroy the developer. Great for storing XTOL. I use it replenished so I use one 2 liter plastic jug for storing the used developer and the wine bladder to hold the XTOL that I use to replenish. I always top off the plastic jug displacing the air. It's a great ghetto system.
http://winekick.com/blog/2013/3/30/trader-joes-b-red-shiraz-review

cramej · Dec 16, 2014

Mainecoonmaniac said:
Being a wino, I use used wine bladders. It's double lined plastic inside a light proof cardboard box. Wine snobs cringe, but me as a photographer and wine lover it's the cat's meow. I store film developer in these bladders. As I use up the batch of developer, the bladder collapses leaving little or no air that could destroy the developer. Great for storing XTOL. I use it replenished so I use one 2 liter plastic jug for storing the used developer and the wine bladder to hold the XTOL that I use to replenish. I always top off the plastic jug displacing the air. It's a great ghetto system.
http://winekick.com/blog/2013/3/30/trader-joes-b-red-shiraz-review

I was going to try using the bladders but I couldn't get the blasted spigot out of the one that I had. Any tricks to that?

Mainecoonmaniac · Dec 16, 2014

The Trader Joe's wine box spigot doesn't screw out. It's inserted and the threads are to keep the spigot from sliding out. How I do it is to heat the spigot where it inserts into the bag under some hot water and pull hard. The hot water softens the plastic making tap easier to pull out. So when you fill the bladder, insert the spigot as far as it will go. Test for leaks. Spinning the spigot won't get it off the bladder nor get it back in. After the spigot is reinserted, I hold the bladder where the tap inserts so all the air goes to the spigot. I then open the tap and squeeze to get the air out then close the tap. I then put the bladder back into the box and write the contents and date mixed. I never reuse them because I will get more bladders

marciofs · Dec 16, 2014

I used to have 500ml beer brown bottle but now that I joined the large format field I am storing 1L of each chemical and I can't find cheap beer brown bottle.

The ones 500ml have a pressured plastic cork that works great.

MattKing · Dec 16, 2014

Some chemicals (e.g. silver nitrate) are light sensitive, so dark is good.

Most chemicals aren't particularly light sensitive.

If you have lots of choice, use different colours for different things. That will cut down on the chances of mistaking fixer for developer.

cliveh · Dec 16, 2014

I find that using magenta bottles it gives me that small edge in contrast.

NedL · Dec 16, 2014

You can't fool me; I know there's no such thing as a magenta bottle.

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