re: solids
I don't have a ball mill, but I do have coffee filters...would that get rid of the solid matter, or is it too fine for a coffee filter to remove?
Yes, I'm still reading, and learning. Although I haven't enjoyed the arguing, I have very much enjoyed the insights into various standards, grading, etc. and possible repercussions, or lack thereof. I'm not mixing my own chems, except occasionally from a kit.
It is, for instance, reassuring to know that 20 mule team is a possible substitute if photo grade becomes unavailable, should I start to mix my own, if should I want to experiment with something I couldn't get off the shelf, or in the future couldn't get anything the shelf at all.
I was considering the question again sitting here and have come up with a set of problems to illustrate this for you.
A photo grade chemical might be designated with a solids content of 1%, but the ANSI Photo Grade standard also defines the size of this particulate matter. And so, two chemicals with the same 1% impurity as solids but with two different sizes in that particulate matter might represent a pass and a fail of the ANSI standards.
The ACS grade often denotes halide presence as "total halide content", but for Photo Grade, the ANSI standards that we worked with gave each halide a percentage value. This therefore could classify the possible uses of chemicals for emulsion making only or for film emulsion only and etc. You see, Iodide content is critical in Sodium Chloride for a Chloro/Bromide, but much less so for a Bromo/Iodide.
Below a certain level, the halides present become rather unimportant for processing chemcials but above a certain level again the type of halide is critical for processing solutions.
Calcium and Potassium levels are of critical importance in fixes, and so a fixer must be free of those salts or it can be poisoned as a fixer. (See Mees and James or Haist on this one) They are not very important at all in developers except that a sloppy processor could carry too much developer with a Potassium salt into his fixer.
I hope this further clarifies this matter (if anyone is even reading this anymore).
PE
If you get that opalescence does that mean that the particle size is somewhere near the wavelength of visible light?
I should add further that to prove that this statement by Patrick is incorrect "In that case, anything but soluble material should be at the bottom of the container", the suspension of small particles in solution, and the observation of their motion was what led to the discovery of Brownian Motion.
PE
Big Al got himself a Nobel for that one.
I guess I don't follow the referece to Al Gore, if that is who you mean.
I was referring to Robert Brown: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brownian_motion
PE
The method of manufacture does minimize solids, but that is the least of the problems if you use the method of preparing a saturated stock solution. In that case, anything but soluble material should be at the bottom of the container.
Patrick, go get some muddy water out of the creek running down the side the your street when it rains and collect a liter of it. THen pour it into a 1 L graduated cylinder or, even better, a glass device called an "Imhoff Cone". Let the water sit for an hour and you'll see how much suspended material remains in the liquid above the larger bits of dirt that settle to the bottom. There will be lots of insoluble matter still floating in the water. Wait a week, and you will still see stuff suspended, and some of it will never settle and the water will still look turbid from it.
You keep dancing around the original argument which dealt with the suitability of 20 Mule Team Borax for photographic purposes. I have quoted the guaranteed specs of that stuff, which specify that the impurities are guaranteed to be much less than those listed on the container of analytical grade borax that Mick Fagan got.
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