bleaching back before selenium toning

pstake

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Does anyone have experience doing this?

I have split toned, ie fix/wash/bleach/wash/sepia/wash/selenium ... but i'm wondering what kind of redevelopment I would get if I bleached back a print and redeveloped in selenium.

Assuming neutral tone paper, would the redeveloped print come back cool and purple-ish or brown?

If anyone has examples, that would be great.

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Phil
 

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I tried this recently. The bleached areas did not redevelop. If I slightly bleached a too-dark print, then selenium the look was rather interesting. I'll see if I still have those prints around....
 

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The bleached areas will redevelop in developer.

This is how one does darkroom "demonstrations" in room light.
 
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MattKing said:
The bleached areas will redevelop in developer.

This is how one does darkroom "demonstrations" in room light.
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Does anyone do this demonstration using Selenium instead of developer? That's what I'm asking about...
 
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Valerie said:
I tried this recently. The bleached areas did not redevelop. If I slightly bleached a too-dark print, then selenium the look was rather interesting. I'll see if I still have those prints around....
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Hmmm ... I would be interested to see those prints if you find them and have a way to digitize. This is interesting. I may just have to try it and see for myself. Thanks for the info.
 

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The bleach tends to affect the highlights first.

The selenium tends to affect the shadows most.

So if you use both, they tend to work on different parts of your print.

I wouldn't describe selenium as redeveloping anything - it can prevent subsequent bleaching or sepia toning though.
 
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Thanks, Matt. You and Valerie saved me some time and paper.

 

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MattKing said:
The bleached areas will redevelop in developer.

This is how one does darkroom "demonstrations" in room light.
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Just had some fun with some 11x14 contact prints of artichoke flowers this way -- but I redeveloped selectively with developer on brushes (then re-fix).
 
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