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Likewise, saw and tried two original Rolexes at single place. Looked at them and see zero difference from mine fake. Except mine was set at the correct time.
Likewise, saw and tried two original Rolexes at single place. Looked at them and see zero difference from mine fake. Except mine was set at the correct time.I have seen and hold two black M4 ELC. At single place. They were slightly trashed and needed CLA. I looked at them and see zero difference from mine black M4-2. Except mine has usable hotshoe.
I bought it from KEH in 2012. It showed up in the presentation box with all of the documentation, I don't think it had ever been used. It spent the next five years in a half case with a 35 Summicron ASPH almost permanently attached. Played around with a Visoflex III and it took a trip to Solms for a factory upgrade. Our deck was falling apart and needed to raise some funds so it and all the other Leica gear went to new owners. I ended up with a M4 as a consolation prize.
Very nice. Have fun
Who are you and what have you done with the real NB23?
I thought it was the four bags of HCA.Must be the selenium toner...
Edgar Allen Poe called that "The Imp of the Perverse", in a self named short story. It's a feeling one gets when leaning over a high ledge (for instance), and along with that immediate feeling of terror, there's a background thought of...... "what if I jumped?"I am always entertained by those not fascinated by a subject but yet cannot look away
I have been following them for more than a decade now.
- Original BP M4 historically followed the Leica new MP prices.
Fascinating, n’est-ce-pas?
Yes very pretty, looks like a II. Most II's do not have strap lugs so those were probably added later.Super Sexy! Think of me when you’re selling
Never owned a Barnack, but I am confused by people's reactions. Half say they slow you down to nearly medium format level of deliberation, and better be kept as shelf queens. Others say they're great shooters. I should stop by my local used camera shop, they have a lot of them. Which one is most practical for day to day use?
Condition and servicing are more important than anything else - you want a bright rangefinder image and a smooth mechanism and a shutter that fires correctly at all speeds. Ask if they have a warranty or a return window you can use to test. Probably the majority of cameras that haven't been serviced recently have some issue or other. I prefer the IIIa or later for the full range of shutter speeds (the II series and the original III top out at 1/500, and the II series lack slow speeds). The IIIb and later bring the rangefinder and viewfinder windows closer together, which is slightly easier to use. The IIIc and later have a different chassis that is apparently stronger, but they are all tough cameras. If you care about flash, the IIIf was the first with built-in flash sync (earlier models may have had it added, often by a third party, sometimes neatly, sometimes not). The IIIg has a significantly better viewfinder than the others, with parallax-corrected brightlines for 50mm and 90mm (the earlier models just have simple viewfinders for 50mm only and use accessory finders for everything else). However, it's less pocketable and more expensive than the rest. They can all be pretty fast to use once you've loaded the film and got used to the separate eyepieces. Film loading is rather slow and you need to trim the leader to the profile shown in the manual to avoid jamming the mechanism. Get a collapsible 50mm lens if you want to take full advantage of their relatively small sizes and built-in viewfinders.Never owned a Barnack, but I am confused by people's reactions. Half say they slow you down to nearly medium format level of deliberation, and better be kept as shelf queens. Others say they're great shooters. I should stop by my local used camera shop, they have a lot of them. Which one is most practical for day to day use?
Condition and servicing are more important than anything else - you want a bright rangefinder image and a smooth mechanism and a shutter that fires correctly at all speeds. Ask if they have a warranty or a return window you can use to test. Probably the majority of cameras that haven't been serviced recently have some issue or other. I prefer the IIIa or later for the full range of shutter speeds (the II series and the original III top out at 1/500, and the II series lack slow speeds). The IIIb and later bring the rangefinder and viewfinder windows closer together, which is slightly easier to use. The IIIc and later have a different chassis that is apparently stronger, but they are all tough cameras. If you care about flash, the IIIf was the first with built-in flash sync (earlier models may have had it added, often by a third party, sometimes neatly, sometimes not). The IIIg has a significantly better viewfinder than the others, with parallax-corrected brightlines for 50mm and 90mm (the earlier models just have simple viewfinders for 50mm only and use accessory finders for everything else). However, it's less pocketable and more expensive than the rest. They can all be pretty fast to use once you've loaded the film and got used to the separate eyepieces. Film loading is rather slow and you need to trim the leader to the profile shown in the manual to avoid jamming the mechanism. Get a collapsible 50mm lens if you want to take full advantage of their relatively small sizes and built-in viewfinders.
The MP3 is gorgeous. If Leica still had the a la carte program I'd trick out an M-A very much like it, although I doubt the external frame counter was ever an option.Alright, I’ll play…
In 2008 I bought a new in the box and unused black paint Leica MP3 LHSA Edition kit with the 50mm 1.4 Asph and Leicavit, the whole deal. When it sold new from about 2006-2009 it went for $8K on average, I got it for $5K. I thought about not using it and keeping it in the box but I am not like that. So I proceeded to put hundreds of rolls of film through it until I sold it in 2011. It was a bit brassed up but no dents or abuse, the lens barrel had the most wear. I got $21K for it and now when you can find them, they are over $40K.
There are days I wish I still had it, the thing was gorgeous! But in the end I sold it because I did not like a .72 finder with the 50mm and needed the money for other things. I did take a bunch of nice photos of it right when I got it because, well…one never knows.
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Alright, I’ll play…
In 2008 I bought a new in the box and unused black paint Leica MP3 LHSA Edition kit with the 50mm 1.4 Asph and Leicavit, the whole deal. When it sold new from about 2006-2009 it went for $8K on average, I got it for $5K. I thought about not using it and keeping it in the box but I am not like that. So I proceeded to put hundreds of rolls of film through it until I sold it in 2011. It was a bit brassed up but no dents or abuse, the lens barrel had the most wear. I got $21K for it and now when you can find them, they are over $40K.
There are days I wish I still had it, the thing was gorgeous! But in the end I sold it because I did not like a .72 finder with the 50mm and needed the money for other things. I did take a bunch of nice photos of it right when I got it because, well…one never knows.
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