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I'm currently planning a show which I intend to present a long with audio recordings made by a friend at a bar. We've decided it would be great to project the images. The images will be black and white but have not been captured yet.

So I was looking for some advice on options.

Ok first there is obviosly the digital option. I know that is not really allowed for discusion here, but I do own a Leica Monochrom and quality digital capture is easy because of this. I don't really know where to begin, however, in order to obtain a high quality projector that would do black and white images justice. One other thought digitally is having analog 35mm slides made from my monochrom files, using some of CRT services. And yet another printing on Pictorico and projecting that. No need to discuss here, just mentioning it and I don't think it's too far out of APUG's rules to steer me towards digital if it's the easist and best option.

The other option is to shoot black and white medium format and somehow either develop as postiive or dupe into slides. I prefer 6X7 and of course finding a projector would be a bit difficult though I romanticize about the analog slide projection. I would also consider 6X6 if I could get a projector more easily. Unfortunately, all of this happens to come up as DR5 is not available for an unpredicatble amount of time! If you were looking to obtain BW slides what would you do?

I read the Darkroom Cookbook section on reversal processing which was edited by David Wood from DR5, it defintely seems doable though adds a little bit of risk to a project. I guess the only other option would be to shoot negative film and then create a positive from the negative.

What would people here choose for maximum quality? The venue where we will project will hold somewhere around 250 people and is quite dark but not pitch black.

Any thoughts are greatly appreciated!
 
Never tried it -- but reading this a thought shot through what's left of my mind ... I wonder if one could use a color transparency film and use B&W developer instead of color for that step. I actually did some B&W reversal processing with regular B&W film negative back around --- oh --- 19-ought-60-something, but I remember the results as not quite ready for prime time. (See if anybody says something -- either "hey, yeh" or "wa-a-ah craz-z-zy." :D )
 
Take the photographs with black & white film and process the film with a reversal process. There have been threads on APUG in the past on it. Also one of the APUG sponsors specializes in doing black & white reversal, I just do not remember the company name.
 
There are a couple of reputable labs in Germany that will do reversal processing. 6x6 slide projectors aren't too pricey...
 
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Take the photographs with black & white film and process the film with a reversal process. There have been threads on APUG in the past on it. Also one of the APUG sponsors specializes in doing black & white reversal, I just do not remember the company name.
I believe the company you are referring to is Dr5 which I mentioned. They are in the middle of a complicated move right now and temporarily unavailable.
 
I am definitely leaning more towards using my Rollei 6008 AF and picking up a 6x6 projector. I think the impact will be better than a DLP.

I have begun diving into reading more about reversal processing with Black and White film.

I will probably need fairly high speed film for this project, hopefully something I can at least irk 400 ISO out of. Any recommendations on this? HP5 seems to do quite well in DR5 though I understand it is special proprietary process. However, I feel like if I use the Darkroom Cookbook suggestions added by DR5's David Wood to use D-11 as the first developer I may get similar results. But then again Ilford doesn't reccomend HP5 for reversal in their literature!

Any thoughts on a good contrasty, high speed film for reversal? I am not concerned about grain.
 
Contact Klaus Wehner at www.schwarzweissdia.de and tell him what you have in mind. He states to be reluctant with high-speed films.

Otherwise you might give it a try at reversal-processing yourself.
 
On this site maybe in the past year or so, someone put together an outstanding tutorial on how to do reversal processing. All the steps laid out.
 
when you say show what exactly do you mean? A one evening or day show or an exhibition which runs for days or weeks.
I ask because their are clearly practicalities of having a mechanical projector running all that time with no one operating it whereas a digital projection system can be programmed and left to run with no one standing over it.

As regards film, projection of film has an awful lot of light falloff over projection distance which is one reason why slides have so much more density to allow for that. Optimally you need the right film for projection. See following but its only 35mm.

http://www.adox.de/Photo/adox-films-2/adox-silvermax/
 
The necessary high max. density of the film has nothing to do with light fall-off over distance. But with the light path as such.
 
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