black and white filters

bunktheory65 · Jul 31, 2021

Ive been having a hard time deciding if i need to make the jump and get some.

I have been using a CPL on my canon and well i havent noticed any issues when i use black and white film.

But when i look online for comparisons, the CPL simulated images look better in leaves, grass, etc then the filtered ones do. Although orange can be really close to the same detail as the CPL.

IS there more importance to the sky and clouds then i am understanding?

madNbad · Jul 31, 2021

Get the basic three, light yellow, orange, medium red and give them a try. You can find off brands for not much money and you may find you like the look. A simple rule of thumb is to reduce the ISO by the filter factor.

bunktheory65 · Jul 31, 2021

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madNbad said:
Get the basic three, light yellow, orange, medium red and give them a try. You can find off brands for not much money and you may find you like the look. A simple rule of thumb is to reduce the ISO by the filter factor.

There be alot of options, deep yellow, yellow, yellow with numbers. Not much to exactly explain the differences.

DO they have an issue when used with a CPL

madNbad · Aug 1, 2021

The higher the number the darker the filter. Tiffan has a different numbering for filter density than B+W but not much different in reality. A Tiffan #8 is equivalent to a B+W 022. Get a #8 Yellow or an 022 for a try. Schneider’s page about filters is very informative. Just remember, all modern films will preform well without any filtration. Any filter you add to the lens is for your own enjoyment.

JensH · Aug 1, 2021

bunktheory65 said:
Ive been having a hard time deciding if i need to make the jump and get some.

I have been using a CPL on my canon and well i havent noticed any issues when i use black and white film.

But when i look online for comparisons, the CPL simulated images look better in leaves, grass, etc then the filtered ones do. Although orange can be really close to the same detail as the CPL.

IS there more importance to the sky and clouds then i am understanding?

Hi,

sure, get at least a yellow one, a #12 (or B&W 023) would be my choice.

In my first years I used a orange #22 (B&W 041) one a lot, today only seldomly as it darkens green too much.
It is nice for clouds indeed.

Sometimes a yellow green #11 (B&W 060) makes look leaves great... sometimes they look better with a #8 (B&W 022) or #12 yellow.

Best wishes
Jens

Bill Burk · Aug 1, 2021

bunktheory65 said:
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There be alot of options, deep yellow, yellow, yellow with numbers. Not much to exactly explain the differences.

DO they have an issue when used with a CPL

With a wide angle lens there will be vignetting when you stack two filters.

madNbad · Aug 1, 2021

I have a bunch of different filters but all with the same idea. For my Leica, there are B+W 022 medium yellow and Tiffen #15 dark yellow. A B+W 040 orange and a 060 yellow-green and a 090 medium red. I use them occasionally when I’m looking to enhance the image. Today, a lot of changes are digital inserted in post processing. Learning how to use them to their greatest effect will give you better insight to how to manipulate light.

Paul Howell · Aug 1, 2021

With standard pentachromic film yellow absorbs some blue and darkens the sky some, an orange absorbs more red and darken the sky more, red absorbs almost all red and darkens the sky to almost black. The darker the sky the more the the clouds will stand out. The trade off is a yellow, orange or red filter darkens green foliage. A yellow green or green will darken the sky some and lighten foliage, so good for light skins in portraits. Most introductions to black and white photography books will explain in greater detail. If you look under the exposure thread you will many posts on the subject.

Foto Ludens · Aug 1, 2021

Paul Howell said:
orange absorbs more red and darken the sky more, red absorbs almost all red and darkens the sky to almost black

Did you mean to say "absorbs more blue"?

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