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Being flippant on a subject like chemical safety benefits nobody. All you've
got to do is know as many "artistes" as I do who were macho with chemicals in their youth and now have deep regrets over ruined health, or know labowners who were put out of business due to accrued hypersensitivity. As far as I'm concerned, anyone who works with RA4 in
open trays is a downright fool. Just because you don't get irritated with the smell doesn't make it safe. I've known people even working at the sales counter in labs getting sick over time. RA vapors and air suitable for breathing are two different things.
The widest generally available RA4 colour paper was from Kodak. It came in various sizes but the largest size I ever used, was paper that was 6' wide by 100' long.
The actual largest single one piece print I have ever done, is 6' wide by 18' long. This was around 23-24 years ago, things have changed somewhat.
The roller transport developing machine was 6'6" wide, let me tell you that feeding in a piece of paper that long and wide in total darkness, was an art form by itself. The paper had to go in dead square, otherwise somewhere after the start, the edge of the paper would start meshing with the gears, which would firstly stuff the print up, and secondly, possibly jam the processor; real problems and time waster when that happened.
If you do a search, you should find some threads regarding large prints.
For wall projection with these sizes a metal wall is best, using magnets to hold the paper up. You must remember that all of this is done in total darkness and for a print of this size two people work in complete darkness to unload a specific length of paper, cut it with a Stanley knife, then affix it to the wall in the correct position. Exposure is often up to 10 or 15 minutes with very big enlargements. Familiarity with your co-worker, was an important pre-requisite to working in the darkroom with this kind of enlarging!
The minimum negative size is 4x5" with 8x10" being preferable. By using copy internegative materials (no longer available) one could take a 35mm transparency and dupe it up to an 8x10" negative for enlargement.
From start to finish often took a minimum of three days as checks and client approval was needed at every step of the way. The process is/was so expensive, mistakes had to be kept to a minimum.
Mick.
I'm going thru fits deciding whether or not to install a 50" Kreonite or just stick with the 30x40 drum
processor I already use. I could make a much bigger drum system, but I think anything bigger than
30X40 and the chemical cost efficiency would signifiant decrease, because larger and larger relative
volumes would be need to keep the temp tolerances tight. Fill and drain time also become bigger
issues. Really monstrous prints have zero market in this part of the world, and if Scarface did build
a really ostentatious Miami mansion around there parts, his taste probably wouldn't correspond to
anything I print anyway.
Danielle:
Note the instructions for tray development in Kodak publication J-39: http://www.kodak.com/global/en/professional/support/techPubs/j39/j39.pdf
If you read through a variety of Kodak technical publications, you will realize that there will be specific and detailed warnings if certain chemistries or processes involve unusual safety concerns. J-39 includes no such warnings.
It is not that care isn't required, but rather that the usual sort of care is sufficient.
Yes, thanks Bob. My logic is that I'd just run the machine seasonally a few months and do all my RA printing
in sequence, then have to clean it out for the rest of the year. The drum would be available for casual work.
But drums are pretty slow for the whole sequence of test strips, print, reprint etc. And by simply disconnecting
the dryer I don't need any new wiring. Some plumbing and space headaches, yes.
Yes, thanks Bob. My logic is that I'd just run the machine seasonally a few months and do all my RA printing
in sequence, then have to clean it out for the rest of the year. The drum would be available for casual work.
But drums are pretty slow for the whole sequence of test strips, print, reprint etc. And by simply disconnecting
the dryer I don't need any new wiring. Some plumbing and space headaches, yes.
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