Best Printer for Negative ??

[Philippe Berger]

Hello,
I'm new to the forum.
I introduce myself. My name is Philip Berger and I live in Belgium
I am a photographer Carbon Transfer.
I print my negatives on transparency film Pictorico with an Epson R800
But my Epson R800 is out.
I wanted to buy an Epson R3000 A3 but I tested and the "Pizza Wheels" are registered in the slide.
It is possible to obtain a negative flawless.
I wanted to buy the Canon Pixma Pro-1 but impossible to get a demonstration at Canon Belgium.
So I do not know if the Canon Pixma Pro-1 Canon or other Canon printer for printing on transparent Pictorico movie.

What A3 printer with pigment ink jet ink to print the best buy on Film Negative Pictorico flawless (without Pizzas Wheels of Epson?)

Thank you for your help

Philippe

 

[pschwart]

I wanted to buy an Epson R3000 A3 but I tested and the "Pizza Wheels" are registered in the slide.
It is possible to obtain a negative flawless.
I wanted to buy the Canon Pixma Pro-1 but impossible to get a demonstration at Canon Belgium.
So I do not know if the Canon Pixma Pro-1 Canon or other Canon printer for printing on transparent Pictorico movie.

What A3 printer with pigment ink jet ink to print the best buy on Film Negative Pictorico flawless (without Pizzas Wheels of Epson?)

Philippe

I think most desktop printers use star wheels to help direct media to the output tray. Whether you see the pizza wheel marks can depend on driver settings and profiling (more ink laid down can result in marks), and even the paper tray selected (my 3800 can leave the marks if the front manual feed is not used).

Pizza wheels are only one problem. Don't forget that some printers have poor UV blocking with the Epson driver and ink. My Epson 1400 and 2000 don't leave pizza wheels on OHP, but they don't make good digital negatives without third-party inks and/or a RIP like QTR. Availability of refillable cartridges and QTR support are why I stick with Epsons despite frustrations.

Bottom line: there is no perfect printer for digital negatives, but there are solutions that can deliver good results.
I use an Epson 3800 for colorized palladium negatives, an Epson R1800 for composite b&w negatives for carbon transfer, and I am testing an Epson 1400 with Piezography K6 carbon and QTR. The negatives are a bit fragile but palladium prints are very fine. When I am done testing the palladium profile I will try carbon transfer.

 

[Philippe Berger]

Thank you for your response. I tested an Epson R3000 but impossible to introduce the film from the front.
I introduced the film from the back but I have little white dots on the film because of Pizza Wheels, if I look at the thread with a magnifying glass. With Carbon TRansferl, it is impossible.
No solution, I contacted Canon and HP test but impossible.

 

[Philippe Berger]

It it possible printing digital négative on sheet film Pictorico with the printer Canon Pixma 9500 or the new Pixma PRO-1 ?

Thank if a fiend use this Canon Printer ?

 

[Philippe Berger]

Hi,

Nobody on the world use a Canon Printer, a HP Printer to print the digital négative on film pictorico for the platinum, the carbon process?
Yes, Nobody (personne dans le monde !!!)

Epson and this Pizzas wheels of nuts is the only !!! and nothing solution

I am a bad dream

 

[Herzeleid]

I would recommend QTR and Epson combo, in the earlier post pschwart mentioned epson 1400 with 3rd party inks. That is a very solid solution.

I am using claria inks, default for epson 1400, but I have a different printer. I have no pizza wheels problems, and I can print negatives for salt/albumen and they are high key images, and I am not using any bichromate to increase contrast. I guess negatives for salt/albumen are the densest you can get.

I believe epson 1400 even with default inks, is a good solution, but you will see in the forums that claria inks are weak in terms of UV blocking, and yes they are weak.
Only if you are using QTR you can make dense and good negatives. Don't even bother with default epson drivers, I have tried RPN, chartthrob and many other printer tweaks
you can't get consistency.

And I have no knowledge of the workings of carbon process. I am only remarking QTR and Epson combination is quite remarkable even for UV weak dyes like claria.

 

[Philippe Berger]

Thank you but the Epson claria ink is no a pigmented ink

I hope find a Photograph using the Canon Printer PIxma-PRO-1 for printing digital Negatrive for Carbon or Platinum on Sheet Film Pictorico but is it impossible ?

 

[Klainmeister]

Funny, I'm using an Epson 1400 for digital negatives....I don't seem to have any issues. My print times are approximately 1.5 stops shorter than ones done with the 3880. Sounds like a bad thing, but for things like Ziatypes and other moist prints, it allows shorter print times preventing drying while exposing.

 

[pschwart]

pigment ink is not a requirement for digital negatives. What is needed is sufficient UV blocking and ink that adhere well to OHP without smearing and bleeding. As it turns out, Claria dye ink is a poor UV blocker, but there have been other dye printers that made fine negatives. I am going to test Cone Ink Thrift dye ink in one of my Epsons (the Cone Color pigment ink was great for prints but a poor UV blocker).

 

[Klainmeister]

I spent $40 on a CISS from an ebay dealer. Good god knows what type of ink that is. But heck, it works just fine.