As an addendum, developing the negative/postiive side, I got this from AI :
are there photographers famous for shooting color negative film?
- William Eggleston: Eggleston primarily used color negative films like Kodak Vericolor and later Portra for his prints. His work, such as the vivid, everyday scenes in William Eggleston’s Guide, showcases the muted yet rich palette of color negative film, which was key to his pioneering color photography.
- Stephen Shore: Shore extensively used color negative films like Kodak Vericolor and Fujifilm stocks for his Uncommon Places series. The film’s dynamic range and subtle color shifts helped him capture the American landscape with a documentary-like clarity and warmth.
- Joel Meyerowitz: Meyerowitz often worked with color negative films such as Kodak Ektacolor (not to be confused with Ektachrome) for his street photography and Cape Light series. These films allowed for the soft, natural tones that defined his exploration of light and color.
- Nan Goldin: Goldin’s raw, intimate images in The Ballad of Sexual Dependency were shot on color negative films like Kodak Portra and Fujicolor, which gave her work its characteristic grainy texture and saturated, emotional hues.
- Alec Soth: Known for his large-format work in projects like Sleeping by the Mississippi, Soth used color negative films (e.g., Kodak Portra 400) to achieve the lush, detailed tones that define his lyrical documentation of American life.
tell me for each of those photographers what was their camera of choice (this one I asked to annoy people who don't want brands mentioned) Eggleston's Canonet is da bomb...
So mostly no Nikon for negative film...uhhmmm
- William Eggleston:
- Camera: Leica M-series rangefinders (notably Leica M3 and M4) and Canonet G-III QL17.
- Stephen Shore:
- Camera: Rolleiflex 2.8F (medium format) and later a Deardorff 8x10 large-format camera.
- Joel Meyerowitz:
- Camera: Leica M-series rangefinders (primarily Leica M4) and Deardorff 8x10.
- Nan Goldin:
- Camera: Leica M-series (often Leica M6) and Nikon FM2.
- Alec Soth:
- Camera: Deardorff 8x10 and later a Mamiya 7 II (medium format).
So you've got your money in the wrong brand. I think you need to give up photography.
The debate between slide vs. negative film has been going for a very long time. Slide film became the film of choice for commercial and magazine photographers due to how color work was printed for mass market. Nat Geo used slide film, in the 60s Ansco later Kodak. But for printing Kodak recommended negative film. In the 70s the Air Force moved from black and white to color portraiture of commanders and first sergeants we used negative film. With E6 we could have to make a mask to control the contrast. Then you had a 3rd generation print that would lose sharpness. First the slide, second the inter-negative with mask for the final print. When projecting it was a frist generation slide or a copy that had contrast controlled with a mask. Cibachrome improved the slide to print as there no need for a inter negative, but you still need a mask. As there are no direct postive color material such as Cibachrome and most labs scan either slides or negative film unless your are optically printing color not sure if make much of differance. If you want an optical print, then the only practical option is negative. film.
I think this is a question based on enthusiasm, which is great. Let’s be inspired rather than insipid.
The practical reality is that the introduction of the Nikon F system and its rising dominance among professional journalists roughly coincided with the apex of print media, and their standard practice was to use positive film. National Geographic is probably THE prime example. Not every contributor always used Nikon. Many supplemented with Leica, some used another SLR system. But generally speaking, NG had a recognizable look about it, though I wouldn’t ever say I could spot a Nikon image.
Anyway, my answer, because he hasn’t been mentioned yet: Nathan Benn. Here’s an interesting read:
Nathan Benn The Life of a Photographer at National Geographic Before D
The Life of a Photographer at National Geographic Before DigitalPublished online courtesy Santa Fe New Mexicanby PAUL WEIDEMAN, SANTA FE NEW AMERICANAUG 31, 2013Nathan Benn's "Fourth of July, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, 1980." Benn traveled the world, shooting photos for National Geographic...www.medicinemangallery.com
Autofocus and Canon eventually stole many of the pros, especially those who captured fast action. Fast and greatly improved print films, along with early scanners, displaced reversal film. By the late 1990s digital was good, and by the 2000s had become the new standard, and came along with its own new look.
FWIW, I love my film Nikons and assortment of pre-ai lenses. For me the system just works without being fiddly or annoying. National Geographic was awesome. Still is.
The debate between slide vs. negative film has been going for a very long time. Slide film became the film of choice for commercial and magazine photographers due to how color work was printed for mass market. Nat Geo used slide film, in the 60s Ansco later Kodak. But for printing Kodak recommended negative film. In the 70s the Air Force moved from black and white to color portraiture of commanders and first sergeants we used negative film. With E6 we could have to make a mask to control the contrast. Then you had a 3rd generation print that would lose sharpness. First the slide, second the inter-negative with mask for the final print. When projecting it was a frist generation slide or a copy that had contrast controlled with a mask. Cibachrome improved the slide to print as there no need for a inter negative, but you still need a mask. As there are no direct postive color material such as Cibachrome and most labs scan either slides or negative film unless your are optically printing color not sure if make much of differance. If you want an optical print, then the only practical option is negative. film.
Well, Dad didn't do any of the actual developing.
He was Customer Service manager, which meant he and his department had all sorts of dealings with the customers that sent film or cameras for repair to the lab, including those who actually visited the lab, along with the customers of the wide array of Kodak dealers in Western Canada who participated in the system where customers could go into their local store, drop off their Kodachrome for development, go back a day or two later and pick up their developed slides or movies.
As well as the customers who put their exposed Kodachrome into the free convenience mailers included with the film, put some stamps on the mailer, and dropped them in the mail, with the reasonable expectation that they would have the developed slides and movies back to them in a few days, courtesy of Canada Post.
All without additional cost to the customer because, in Canada, Kodachrome was sold with the cost of processing and those other auxiliary handling services included in the purchase price,
Dad and his department handled the dealings with Canada Post too.
In its heyday, we are talking about thousands and thousands of films - much of which was movie film.
A bunch of Ektachrome as well, but the processing of Ektachrome had to be paid for.
Dad did have contact with Fred Herzog though - because Fred Herzog was convinced that the Kodachrome lab in Palo Alto was the very best at developing Kodachrome. So despite all the evidence to the contrary, he did his best to have all his Kodachrome forwarded there.
Which meant interacting with Dad's responsibilities - Fred would bring the film to the lab in North Vancouver where Dad was based and have one of Dad's employees fill out the necessary order form to have it sent for processing in Palo Alto California, to be then returned to the North Vancouver for pickup by Fred.
All without extra charge, I believe.
In case you didn't realize it, if you visited Canada back then and bought some Kodachrome, and then took it back to the USA to have it processed by tour local Kodak lab, they would have also processed it for you without extra charge - the "process paid" status of the film was encoded on the cassette and the film itself.
Some more examples, more or less contemporary:
Larry Niehues - Nikons and miscellaneous color print film.
Mike Brodie (aka The Polaroid Kid) - Polaroid originally, then Nikon F3 and Portra 400
Dan Eldon - Nikon FA and a basic 50mm lens, any film he could get, and WAY more enthusiasm than most of us will ever have.
The choice of film was based on what was being done with the results.
That included what processing resources were available to the photographer and/or their employers.
At one time, the dedicated operated by Kodak Kodachrome processing line located at National Geographic headquarters in Washington DC had the highest Kodak operated lab 35mm Kodachrome slide volume in the world - all of which came from National Photographic photographers. The other Kodak operated Kodachrome processing labs may have had higher total volumes, but much of that volume came from movie film (mostly), plus some 126, 828, even 110 film.
In the case of many photo journalists, the same applied to the choice of camera systems. In many parts of the world, Nikon provided robust and effective service and support to their newspaper and magazine customers, so those newspapers and magazines supplied their photographers with Nikon SLRs.
When Canon overtook Nikon in the support and service for professionals market, many/most switched.
Professional photographers switched whenever the new tool seemed more appropriate for their use. They mostly didn't care what the name on the camera said.
Got ya.
But what about film? When making these switches, did they also switch between positive and negative?
The Canon EOS system changed everything. Prior to EOS Nat Geo, the Air Force, Army, newspaper, the wire were by and large Nikon users. The System non only included the body but the motor drives, finders, screens and lens. So when looking at moving from say Nikon F2 to Canon F1new or Pentax LX you needed a entire e new system. When AF came along Canon came out with a new mount, lens all micro motor driven. Nikon stuck with the F mount so the AI and AIS lens could be used in most exposure modes in manual focus. But, why but why buy and expensive F4 and not have AF lens? So at that point the choice was get the best AF system, which was Canon EOS 1. In the world of AF Canon became the new Nikon. The gray L glass lens became the standard. I've not be able to confirm but the story is that NASA used Nikon as Canon L glass lens used a floride element that would hold up the vibration of a space launch.Many sports photographers switched to Canon when their long telephoto lenses proved superior (sharper & faster). Also, when digital hit the commercial and photojournalist market, in short time Canon surpassed Nikon. I know a lot of commercial photographers who dumped all their Nikon film gear and bought Canon systems.
lets not forget the lost art of dye transfer prints.
Ernst Haas (March 2, 1921 – September 12, 1986) was an Austrian-American photojournalist and color photographer. During his 40-year career Haas trod the line between photojournalism and art photography. In addition to his coverage of events around the globe after World War II Haas was an early innovator in color photography. His images were carried by magazines like Life and Vogue and, in 1962, were the subject of the first single-artist exhibition of color photography at New York's Museum of Modern Art. He served as president of the cooperative Magnum Photos. His book of volcanophotographs, The Creation (1971), remains one of the most successful photography books ever published, selling more than 350,000 copies.[1]
thanks, I am interested in photographers using Nikon cameras.
Of course digital is better, more practical …
My question for you is, are you old enough to have lived the golden age of color film? What is then the matter with positive film being perceived as superior? Was it justified? Kodak had a ton of color negative films (vericolor, gold, kodacolor...) and probably tens of others were available from other brands.
I'm old enough
Slide film was the easiest to process.
As a positive film, it can be viewed immediately after development. There's no color ambiguity, as it's standard, and there's no conversion or individual filtering like with negative.
Films like Kodachrome 64 and 25 were also known for their sharpness.
However, slide film is more demanding in terms of exposure, as it has a narrower exposure range than negative film. Also, there are no correction options available with the positive process, nevertheless prints from slides could be made, see
The Canon EOS system changed everything. Prior to EOS Nat Geo, the Air Force, Army, newspaper, the wire were by and large Nikon users. The System non only included the body but the motor drives, finders, screens and lens. So when looking at moving from say Nikon F2 to Canon F1new or Pentax LX you needed a entire e new system. When AF came along Canon came out with a new mount, lens all micro motor driven. Nikon stuck with the F mount so the AI and AIS lens could be used in most exposure modes in manual focus. But, why but why buy and expensive F4 and not have AF lens? So at that point the choice was get the best AF system, which was Canon EOS 1. In the world of AF Canon became the new Nikon. The gray L glass lens became the standard. I've not be able to confirm but the story is that NASA used Nikon as Canon L glass lens used a floride element that would hold up the vibration of a space launch.
t the same time, it appears to me that photos from negatives also had a quite different, ("colder"?) look.
Like this from Stephen Shore:
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