I’ve never had much luck with delta3200 at box speed. Its true speed is 1000 and like many people I find it works a lot better at around that speed.
Many people have success shooting 400 speed films at 800 and 1600
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Yes I’d actually be far happier using delta 3200 if it was called 1600. The “3200” just rubs me the wrong way! I feel like the film is a shyster selling me false promises.
In some cases -today- I would be gladThey should just tell us the real speed, rather than these “designed to be pushed to” speed.
......have a pro gig shooting people coming up where I have to shoot low light black and white 35mm....what you recommend....straight up Ilford delta 3200 at box speed or another film pushed...thoughts very welcome
My experience is that D3200 is pretty good at 1600 in the likes of DDX or Xtol. A user on another forum called FADU tested it and found that only Ilford Microphen gave true box speed of 3200. I do not have the technical knowledge to confirm or deny that a speed of 3200 is possible, nor possibly the testing skills but his test routine appeared pretty good so the least you might conclude is that even if Microphen doesn't get you there, it gets you closer than any other developer.
Some believe that HP5+ pushed gets you as good negatives as 3200 at 1600 but you'd have to try both.
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excellent help as usual....PS Im from GIBRALTAR....NOT Spain....no offence.....ahahahahahah
no offence to my dear Spanish friends which I have loads of!!!!!!!!!!Haha. Gibraltar is most certainly not Spain!!! I posted some shots from there to the gallery recently. I work in Gib at least 4 times a year for a week at time. Great place!
There's quite a few of my Gib photos here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/144059001@N05/
no offence to my dear Spanish friends which I have loads of!!!!!!!!!!
Svenedin! LOVE the image of the 'slopes' and the apes etc ......have a look at my little project of apes with Hasselblad 2000FCM and Tmax 400..........
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Delta 3200 is designed to have lower contrast than normal. So while the ISO speed may be 1000, when you "push" it (under-expose it at EIs of 1600 or 3200 and over-develop it) the result may actually yield better mid-tone and highlight rendition than when it is used at its ISO speed.They should just tell us the real speed, rather than these “designed to be pushed to” speed.
Delta 3200 is designed to have lower contrast than normal. So while the ISO speed may be 1000, when you "push" it (under-expose it at EIs of 1600 or 3200 and over-develop it) the result may actually yield better mid-tone and highlight rendition than when it is used at its ISO speed.
As for rendition and detail in the shadows, it will probably be better when shot at 1000.
So choose your goal, and set your meter accordingly.
I've had passable results with Delta 3200 at box speed and even pushed 2 stops to 12,800 (using Ilfotech DD-X).
Here are 2 examples from 6x4.5 Delta 3200 negatives shot at 12,800 (I know your question is about 35mm). The camera is a 1935 Zeiss Ikon Super Ikonta using an iPhone app as a light meter. Taken in ambient light, the second one at night. Very hard to focus an old rangefinder in low light so they are not particularly sharp.
Alex #1 (Delta 3,200 pushed to 12,500)
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8"x10" print. Photo taken indoors without flash. Took the camera out to lunch and then to the...Old Geezer (Delta 3200 at 12,500)
An old geezer I know from my local, "Grumpy Chris". Another of my ambient light night photos...
Gitzo or Manfrotto?......have a pro gig shooting people coming up where I have to shoot low light black and white 35mm....what you recommend....straight up Ilford delta 3200 at box speed or another film pushed...thoughts very welcome
@trendland Yes the light meter app (“My lightmeter”) agrees with my Sekonic. Actually the app only goes to EI 6,400 so I then have to take a stop off in my head to get to 12,800. The camera, although very old, had a professional service just before those photos were taken so I believe the shutter speeds are fairly accurate. The grain is obvious so pushing that far might not be satisfactory for 35mm (I have not tried 12,800 in 35mm format). It is great fun to take indoor film photographs with no flash. I only did this as a fun experiment which is why the photographs are in two different pubs!
Aha I´ve read it not correct : So you have a pro shooting..........have a pro gig shooting people coming up where I have to shoot low light black and white 35mm....what you recommend....straight up Ilford delta 3200 at box speed or another film pushed...thoughts very welcome
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