thank you guys, i did get the bessa-r from cameraquest and its great,simple and quick. i would recomend stephen gandy he is great to deal with. i was able to locate a couple of canon ltms a 50mm 1.4 and a 35mm 1.8 they are great lenses, my next lens will be the 50mm 1.5 nokton i have heard great thins about this lens and i hope to up grade to a bessar2 . in the real world of family, work, bills and other, it is great for some of us who cannot justify the expence of say a leica m6, m7, mp that there is the likes of a bessa r, r2 .but i still dream of m6 summicron heaven.