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Isaiah Dominguez · Apr 5, 2021

Hey guys just got into photography specifically film photography. I purchased an ae1 program and was looking into getting a uv filter I read it has some benefits for the photos and protects your lens. What are your opinions should I get one (urth gobe uv filter + )

shutterfinger · Apr 5, 2021

UV and Skylight filters are basically the same. If you're prone to bump your camera into things then get one. If you ask a store sales person they will say you need one. If you as a PRO photographer they will say a filter adds another air spaced glass surface for light to reflect off of and reduce contrast therefore you should only use a filter when the situation requires it.
Based on the location you put in your profile the answer is yes as it will cut some of the haze in your area.

jimjm · Apr 5, 2021

You won't really notice much (or any) difference in your images. I use them on some lenses really to just protect the front element, especially if it's an expensive lens or I'm shooting near the ocean (to protect from the salt spray) or in the desert (to protect from blowing sand). If you decide to use one, get a quality coated filter like one made by Hoya or B&W. Adding another piece of glass in front of your lens just increases the chance of flare or reflections, but a good quality filter will minimize this while protecting the front element.

Isaiah Dominguez · Apr 5, 2021

jimjm said:
You won't really notice much (or any) difference in your images. I use them on some lenses really to just protect the front element, especially if it's an expensive lens or I'm shooting near the ocean (to protect from the salt spray) or in the desert (to protect from blowing sand). If you decide to use one, get a quality coated filter like one made by Hoya or B&W. Adding another piece of glass in front of your lens just increases the chance of flare or reflections, but a good quality filter will minimize this while protecting the front element.

I was looking at the urth uv plus lens filter any thought on that one ?

Isaiah Dominguez · Apr 5, 2021

jimjm said:
You won't really notice much (or any) difference in your images. I use them on some lenses really to just protect the front element, especially if it's an expensive lens or I'm shooting near the ocean (to protect from the salt spray) or in the desert (to protect from blowing sand). If you decide to use one, get a quality coated filter like one made by Hoya or B&W. Adding another piece of glass in front of your lens just increases the chance of flare or reflections, but a good quality filter will minimize this while protecting the front element.

Any thoughts on the urth uv+ ?

film_man · Apr 5, 2021

As said, you'll hardly notice a difference. I use B+W filters which are a bit pricer, mainlly for protection on lenses I don't use a hood. Urth makes some nice adapters, got a couple of them. I'm sure the filter are fine, don't worry too much about it.

RalphLambrecht · Apr 5, 2021

Isaiah Dominguez said:
Hey guys just got into photography specifically film photography. I purchased an ae1 program and was looking into getting a uv filter I read it has some benefits for the photos and protects your lens. What are your opinions should I get one (urth gobe uv filter + )

I carry a UV filter on all my lenses to protect hem from dust ,dirt andfinger prints. they ,however, don't affect image quality.

Nitroplait · Apr 5, 2021

Isaiah Dominguez said:
Any thoughts on the urth uv+ ?

Yes, the thought is: Buy B+W, Heliopan or the best HOYA you can afford.

AgX · Apr 5, 2021

shutterfinger said:
If you as a PRO photographer they will say a filter adds another air spaced glass surface for light to reflect off of and reduce contrast therefore you should only use a filter when the situation requires it.

There even had been curved UV filters (meniscus of zero refraction) to avoid such.
So far I only came across one such sample locally.

Used UV filters are ubiquous and likely cost you locally hardly anything. If coming across an unscratched, fitting sample locally, just buy it and use it. At lightingwise critical situations with the camera on a tripod you may take the filter on and off and compare the finder images, maybe you learn something from it. When there is no physical threat to the lens and you want to be on the safe side optically, just take the filter off.

Being rather exposed, in contrasrt to an often somewhat recessed front lens, fingerprints on the filter are likely to happen. I consider this the greatest threat for image degrading by a filter...

Concerning the mechanical protection, there are voices that say that if a filter fractures its morsels are a greater threat to the lens than the harming object itself.

In general the whole UV-filter issue can become dogmatic at discussions...

Donald Qualls · Apr 5, 2021

The other thing the filter protects, at least to some extent, is the filter thread on the lens. That is, if you bump the lens hard enough to dent a filter thread, you just need to replace the filter with the damaged thread, instead of replacing the (usually much more expensive, if it's any good) lens or paying for a filter thread repair sometimes possible, sometimes not, depending on the severity of the damage).

BrianShaw · Apr 5, 2021

In addition to skylight filter... lens hood/shade!

neilt3 · Apr 5, 2021

Isaiah Dominguez said:
Any thoughts on the urth uv+ ?

Just one .
Never heard of 'em ! Who are they ?

Buy from a respected brand and get good results .
If their cheap and naff , they will degrade the image . No point buying good quality lenses and film only to put the bottom of a jam jar in front of it !

I only use filters if their use is warranted .
Typically ND's , colour correction and contrast control for b&w .
The only two reasons I use a UV is if I'm up in the mountains and want to cut through the UV haze , or if in in an area where the lens could get damaged , such as on a windy beach , or where there's motor sport with mud flying about .
A filter is better getting sandblasted or scratched than the lens .

As noted , get a good brand , B&W , the higher grade of Hoya ( not the cheap grade ) and OEM and so on .

AgX · Apr 5, 2021

Donald Qualls said:
The other thing the filter protects, at least to some extent, is the filter thread on the lens.

Good point. But this protection could soley be achieved by just using an empty filter-ring, made from Brass.
On the other hand... a ring from Aluminium would by its more easy deformation yield more damping to lens and body.

We could discuss this endlessly...

Ko.Fe. · Apr 5, 2021

Pros and film is very old term. Back then crappy filters were norm. Ghosts for sure.
Just don't buy old crap. Get modern filter. It has superior, non flaring and else multi-coating.
You are not pro to trash lenses and still get paid for it.

AgX · Apr 5, 2021

Concerning my advise to get used filters: the majority of filters I see in rummage boxes are brand filters.

Sirius Glass · Apr 5, 2021

shutterfinger said:
UV and Skylight filters are basically the same. If you're prone to bump your camera into things then get one. If you ask a store sales person they will say you need one. If you as a PRO photographer they will say a filter adds another air spaced glass surface for light to reflect off of and reduce contrast therefore you should only use a filter when the situation requires it.
Based on the location you put in your profile the answer is yes as it will cut some of the haze in your area.

While I agree that UV and Skylight filters provide protection and that is part of why I have them on all lenses, those filters cut the UV light and haze from the sky and help make the sky look much better.

tballphoto · Apr 5, 2021

One should simply screw the uv and skylight filter crap. its a wasteful expense that isnt going to do the full job. get a CPL. Hoya is my friend. Not the cheapest thign in the world, but they results are wonderful.

wiltw · Apr 5, 2021

Isaiah Dominguez said:
Any thoughts on the urth uv+ ?

Urth web site says their filters are 8-layer coated, and have magnesium rings. So unlike aluminum rings which can bind to aluminum lens barrel; it should be free of sticking (like brass) but not be as heavy as brass ring filters. And the 8-layer coating is indicative of 'multicoating' which transmits a higher percentage of light, so less of the light is reflected back as contrast reducing flare.

Debate abounds about the 'benefit' vs. the 'harm' that comes from use. A good approach is to use the filter in ordinary circumstances, but REMOVE the filter for high flare situations...the middle approach, rather than being at one of the two extremes in filter use or not!

Paul Howell · Apr 5, 2021

U.V filters cut .U.V light and reduces haze in landscape shots where there is distance, works with both black and white and color films. Skylight warms the sky with color film. Modern lens have better U.V coating that older single coated lens and much better than uncoated lens. How much warmer a sky light renders a scene, some like it others don't. When shooting B&W I keep a U.V on my lens, with a telephoto will keep the U.V on when using a contrast filter, with color I use a Sky Light.

George Mann · Apr 5, 2021

Skylight filters tend have a more useful UV filtration curve than most UV filters. Also, single coated filters that are free of optical defects work as intended without any drawbacks when used with a proper lens hood.

Also, lens hoods work well to protect lenses from most kinds of harm. Use a filter around blowing sand and salt water spray.

Kodachromeguy · Apr 5, 2021

tballphoto said:
One should simply screw the uv and skylight filter crap. its a wasteful expense that isnt going to do the full job. get a CPL. Hoya is my friend. Not the cheapest thign in the world, but they results are wonderful.

CPL, do you mean a circular polarizer? What if he does not want polarization of the scenes he is photographing? Also, he may not want a loss of 1 1/2 (approx.) stops of light. And why a CPL if his camera can use a linear polarizer?

Huss · Apr 5, 2021

Isaiah Dominguez said:
Hey guys just got into photography specifically film photography. I purchased an ae1 program and was looking into getting a uv filter I read it has some benefits for the photos and protects your lens. What are your opinions should I get one (urth gobe uv filter + )

Welcome Isaiah!

You're overthinking it for now. Just go out have fun with your camera and take pics. See what you get. Then share your experiences and ask away.

tballphoto · Apr 5, 2021

Kodachromeguy said:
CPL, do you mean a circular polarizer? What if he does not want polarization of the scenes he is photographing? Also, he may not want a loss of 1 1/2 (approx.) stops of light. And why a CPL if his camera can use a linear polarizer?

CPL is the abreviation.... it combines skylight and uv with better and improved performance.

And as far as reducing 1.5 stops of light... the onboard EV system will compensate for it just fine. It does on my FtB just fine..

And you also get light loss with a linear polarizer as well last i looked. But hey, dont feel left out if you dont want the usefulness of 3 filters in one.

GRHazelton · Apr 5, 2021

I would far rather replace even an expensive B&W filter than have my Pentax 50mm f1.2 lens repaired, not to mention the front element of my Tamron 300mm f2.8 tele! Let me tell you, a 112mm filter for the Tamron is expensive! Another reasonable expense would be a lens shade. Let the lens shade and filter take the damage, rather than your lens. Plus a proper lens shade will reduce flare and other nasties from light sources just outside your lens' field of view.

MattKing · Apr 6, 2021

tballphoto said:
CPL is the abreviation.... it combines skylight and uv with better and improved performance.

CPL has always referred to a Circular polarizer in the past. In many cases, you don't want to use a polarizer, particularly if you have standing water in your shot.
A polarizing filter is a special purpose filter that should be used intentionally, not generally.
And a skylight filter is essentially a "mild" UV filter, so I don't know how you are going to combine them.

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