1 MW of baking soda (84 g) + 1 MW of ascorbic acid
will give you 1 MW of sodium ascorbate + a bunch of
CO2 when you add water.
The molecular weight of ascorbic acid is 176. Sodium ascorbate is 199. 1 MW of baking soda (84 g) + 1 MW of ascorbic acid will give you 1 MW of sodium ascorbate + a bunch of CO2 when you add water. Use just enough water to dissolve the solids and let the fizzing subside before adding more water. CO2 in water is mildly acidic. Warming will speed it up just as with a soft drink. So, 176 grams ascorbic acid + 84 grams bicarb in water gives 199 grams of sodium ascorbate. Scale it down for your needs and don't forget to let the CO2 escape.
Sodium hydroxide, MW = 40, will work without letting off CO2. I can't get that locally anymore. If you have some, use 40 grams NaOH instead of the bicarb.
I'm surprised you can't get Caustic Soda locally. I get mine from DIY stores in 1lb bottles (500g) as pearl.
Its sold as drain cleaner.
Sodium Hydroxide is prohibited in many areas of the US. For example, it is forbidden to posess it in NYC. IIRC, when I taught my workshop there, they had trouble getting it for this reason.
PE
I know how to make lye from slaked lime and soda ash, but for most things I have learned to do without.
That is interesting David. I got my story from Patty at CFAAHP when she was trying to set up the workshop. She could not buy it and had to have it shipped in.
PE
Pat, please tell me how to make sodium hydroxide out
of slacked lime. Have you figured out how to transmute
calcium into sodium?
Pat, please tell me how to make sodium hydroxide out of slacked lime. Have you figured out how to transmute calcium into sodium?
Wow! What a great history lesson. I’m 76 and had no idea about this, except for the decongestant. I guess I don’t get around enough or around the shady crowds.The trouble is that sodium hydroxide (aka lye, aka caustic soda) is a principal ingredient in the manufacture of methamphetamines (aka meth). Meth abuse has been on the rise in the US for several years. Given the proper ingredients, it's fairly easy to make, so there have been efforts to get those raw ingredients off of store shelves. One of the ingredients is pseudoephedrine, which is used in several over-the-counter decongestants, so many US state and even Federal laws now restrict sale of these products. They can still be bought, but only in limited quantities. I don't know offhand if there are specific laws restricting sale of sodium hydroxide or if manufacturers have just quietly agreed to remove pure sodium hydroxide from the market in favor of products that contain sodium hydroxide in combination with other ingredients so as to make the product useless for meth manufacturer (and, coincidentally, the manufacture of certain photochemicals). These restrictions have followed the geographic spread of meth abuse -- it began in western states and slowly moved east. I live in Rhode Island, and I was able to buy a bottle of pure sodium hydroxide drain cleaner about three years ago, at a time when the same product was reportedly impossible to obtain in states west of the Mississippi River. I haven't seen that product on store shelves here recently.
Fortunately, US mail-order sources such as Photographer's Formulary and the Chemistry Store still sell it. Both these sites require extra paperwork, though (a Drug Enforcement Agency form for PF and a hazmat form for TCS).
One question: will the ascorbate solution keep well?
thanks
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