Arts Organizations Must Pay Specific Attention To FILM/"Analog" Work

[DF]

Like it reads. Especially in the area of Arts Grants.

 

[lensman_nh]

Your opinion, or did you mean to include a link?

As far as grant money goes, whether they pay attention to film or not is at the whim of the grantor, as it should be. Whether I agree with a "no film" stance or not - different question...

 

[BrianShaw]

It would be nice, but why must they?

 

[DonJ]

Like it reads. Especially in the area of Arts Grants.

Arts organizations aren't required to pay attention to photography at all. Is this just a rant, or are you trying to accomplish something?

 

[Ian Grant]

We'd like to hear your opinions OP.

Ian

 

[removed account4]

there is no free lunch.

 

[DF]

I've applied in the past - with an emphasis that If my wares got onto public display, that it'd be made clear that what they're looking at, was made from/shot strictly from film AND to encourage those to give it a try who have never, and those who've been away for awhile, to come back because it is still alive and well.
What in the world is wrong with that....??

 

[BrianShaw]

Nothing wrong with that. But when I see a powerful image the last thing on my mind is how it was created.

 

[MattKing]

What in the world is wrong with that....??

Nothing.
But why would you insist that Arts Organizations must require that.
If your methods and materials are relevant to their criteria, than you need to tell them about your methods and materials.
If it is necessary to know about your methods and materials to understand the reasons behind your project, than by all means share them.
For most work though, it is interesting and informative but only really important to your needs.

 

[removed account4]

I've applied in the past - with an emphasis that If my wares got onto public display, that it'd be made clear that what they're looking at, was made from/shot strictly from film AND to encourage those to give it a try who have never, and those who've been away for awhile, to come back because it is still alive and well.
What in the world is wrong with that....??

nothing, but your post title has nothing to do with that.

 

[ic-racer]

I don't know about "must", all I want is recognition of the medium in which I choose to work. That would be film and silver paper; darkroom prints. For example, I'm preparing to send off images for review. They want 'scans' of the photographs. The prints are 16x20, so I need to find a 16x20 scanner? Do they really make painters scan their work these days? Couldn't pressing the paint on the scanner surface damage the painting?

 

[awty]

From what I've seen of galleries is that they are quite happy to show pictures that are technique over content. Would imagine you have to show there is public interest in such pictures. Being able to self promote would be a good start.

 

[awty]

I don't know about "must", all I want is recognition of the medium in which I choose to work. That would be film and silver paper; darkroom prints. For example, I'm preparing to send off images for review. They want 'scans' of the photographs. The prints are 16x20, so I need to find a 16x20 scanner? Do they really make painters scan their work these days? Couldn't pressing the paint on the scanner surface damage the painting?

I thought they photographed prints with a digital camera.

 

[DonJ]

I don't know about "must", all I want is recognition of the medium in which I choose to work. That would be film and silver paper; darkroom prints. For example, I'm preparing to send off images for review. They want 'scans' of the photographs. The prints are 16x20, so I need to find a 16x20 scanner? Do they really make painters scan their work these days? Couldn't pressing the paint on the scanner surface damage the painting?

When a painting is submitted digitally, it’s typically photographed with a digital camera. You can also photograph it with film and scan the negative.

 

[eddie]

Arts organizations must pay specific attention to art, unless the grant is directed to a specific subset of art.

 

[Pieter12]

Arts organizations must pay specific attention to art, unless the grant is directed to a specific subset of art.

And that includes conceptual and performance art.

 

[benveniste]

I've applied in the past - with an emphasis that If my wares got onto public display, that it'd be made clear that what they're looking at, was made from/shot strictly from film AND to encourage those to give it a try who have never, and those who've been away for awhile, to come back because it is still alive and well.
What in the world is wrong with that....??

Claiming "the medium is the message" is a perfectly valid philosophical stance. But for that to be true, nothing has to be "made clear" to the public. The work, taken as a totality, has to stand on its own. I'm against any assertion stance that "Arts Organizations Must Pay Specific Attention" to anything. While there's nothing wrong with being a polite evangelist for film, it doesn't follow that any organization should be forced to give you a forum to express your message.

 

[faberryman]

Arts organizations need not pay specific attention to film or analog work. What a ludicrous idea.

 

[DF]

Arts organizations need not pay specific attention to film or analog work. What a ludicrous idea.

If it's ludicrous then why do so many agree with me - including members of the Arts Community/Organization?
Are you a film shooter - my guess is no, but if so, then how ludicrous is that ?????

 

[DonJ]

If it's ludicrous then why do so many agree with me - including members of the Arts Community/Organization?

Yet you’ve found no one to agree with you in an entire community of film shooters. Where are these “many” people who agree with you?

And why guess about whether someone uses film, when you could have checked their profile and found out in 30 seconds that your guess is wrong?

 

[Pieter12]

I certainly don't agree and I shoot film. Why should the medium be the distinguishing factor? As a comparison, would any communication other than face-to-face be invalid?

 

[DF]

....because those who DISagree tend to make THEIR opinions known - such as this post.

 

[AgX]

If it's ludicrous then why do so many agree with me - including members of the Arts Community/Organization?

I do not know any "arts organisation" over here that shares your view concerning grants.
And concerning art education there are only few educators stating to be inclined to film, and that inclination then turns out often as lip service.

 

[chriscrawfordphoto]

I don't know about "must", all I want is recognition of the medium in which I choose to work. That would be film and silver paper; darkroom prints. For example, I'm preparing to send off images for review. They want 'scans' of the photographs. The prints are 16x20, so I need to find a 16x20 scanner? Do they really make painters scan their work these days? Couldn't pressing the paint on the scanner surface damage the painting?

Painters hire photographers to photograph their work. Galleries want digital images to review to decide of they want your work. In the past, artists had to submit photos of their work on slide film. Today its done digitally, which really is a much better way to do it. I've been photographing artwork for painters and sculptors for many years. Digital is better for this for several reasons:

1: The artist can send the file to anyone, without limitations. With slides, they had to have duplicates made. Galleries sometimes lost, or even threw slides away.

2: The images can be color corrected to match very closely to the original artwork. Even the best slides simply did not have that level of accuracy.

3: the images can be cropped to the exact edges of the art. With slides there had to be a background behind the piece that would be visible in slides of art that did not conform to the proportions of a 35mm slide.

 

[Ko.Fe.]

I prefer analog prints in art galleries. But art is form of democracy. No “must” should apply. Here should be no discrimination against artists who could not afford film, darkroom prints.