Arista Premium Odorless Fixer Powder

[WGibsonPhotography]

My Arista Premium Odorless Fixer powder came in today, along with some other stuff (Yay!). The package gives directions for mixing but gives no directions for dilution. What are the dilutions for fixer and paper?

I've been using the Arista Liquid Fixer ( http://www.freestylephoto.biz/16241-Arista-Liquid-Fixer-to-Make-1-Gallon ). The dilutions for it are 1:4 for film and 1:9 or 1:7 for paper. Would the dilutions for the powder fixer be the same or similar?

 

[Bob-D659]

Maybe there isn't any. Did you contact Freestyle, or look at their website?

 

[Lowell Huff]

As the supplier of that product, you should read the label under the heading: [INSTRUCTIONS FOR USE]

 

[dancqu]

Not a Clue?

My Arista Premium Odorless Fixer powder came in today, ...

I see no listing of that fixer at Freesyle's site. Do the
mixing instructions give any clue? Dan

 

[clayne]

No dilution from the stock solution (which is of course diluted with water you mix into it).

 

[Rick A]

I believe the Arista fixers are rebranded Clayton chems. I would look up the specs for Clayton fixer, and use their recommended dilutions and times.
Rick

 

[WGibsonPhotography]

I see no listing of that fixer at Freesyle's site. Do the
mixing instructions give any clue? Dan

(there was a url link here which no longer exists)

The label on the package reads

"A clean working, heavy duty rapid fixer. For general purpose use on photographic films and paper. For more specific information, refer to the instruction sheets supplied with films and papers.

Instructions for Use: To one gallon of water at 85F, slowly add fixer powder with constant stirring. Fix film and paper for 2-5 minutes."

I couldnt find anything about this particular fixer when using Google or the AOLOL search (AOLOL sucks, but I have it anyway). The more I looked at the package and read the instructions, the more I thought to myself "maybe this isnt supposed to be diluted further" (which Clayne says).

I'll do a search for a Clayton version of this fixer and see what those directions say. I also sent an email to Freestyle last night. Hopefully I'll hear something from them today

 

[WGibsonPhotography]

Discovery!

When this fixer first came out of the box it was shipped in, I noticed that it looked like the Freestyle label was stuck on top of another label. I didnt think anything about it. I assumed that it the label underneath was a damaged Arista label. Just for shits and giggles (as my dad would say), I carefully peeled the top Arista label off and discovered that the label underneath was not an Arista label. It was a Legacy Pro label!

The mixing instructions are slightly different. The arista label said to mix the powder to 1 gallon of water. The Legacy PRo says to mix the powder to 3 Liters of water then add water to make 3.8L. The Legacy Pro sticker says it's a hardening fixer, and also says nothing about diluting the stock solution further. I thought I read somewhere that modern films and papers already had a hardener in the emulsion. If so, will using a hardening fixer affect the film and paper in any way?




Edit: I just from searching Freestyle that the Legacy Pro fixer I apparently have and this ( http://www.freestylephoto.biz/731712-Kentmere-Kentfix-BandW-Powder-Fixer-to-Make-1-Gallon ) Kentmere powder fixer are the same thing, which is "equivalent" to Kodak Powder Fixer. So I guess I'm off to find the directions for Kodak Powder Fixer

 

[johnnywalker]

I've used it undiluted, being of the opinion if they wanted you to dilute it they would have told you how.

 

[WGibsonPhotography]

I've used it undiluted, being of the opinion if they wanted you to dilute it they would have told you how.

I found this quote on Photo.net: "Usually, not always, powder fixers are mixed with the appropriate amount of water and used undiluted." I guess I'm using it undiluted then

 

[Anscojohn]

I found this quote on Photo.net: "Usually, not always, powder fixers are mixed with the appropriate amount of water and used undiluted." I guess I'm using it undiluted then

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I have always used Freestyle's powdered fixer "as is" after I have mixed it. I dilute the liquid per Freestyle's instructions.

 

[dancqu]

For What it is Worth - Fixer Dilution

Fixers may be used at just about any dilution. As the
dilution is increased so is the time in the fixer. With
a sufficient amount of the chemistry in the needed
solution volume and enough time the film/paper
will come clean. An acid stop is recommended.

Were I to use that fixer I would use it very dilute
one-shot. BTW, that is not a 'Rapid' fixer. Dan

 

[WGibsonPhotography]

Fixers may be used at just about any dilution. As the
dilution is increased so is the time in the fixer. With
a sufficient amount of the chemistry in the needed
solution volume and enough time the film/paper
will come clean. An acid stop is recommended.

I developed a roll of film last night. I clipped the leader and dropped it in a 500ml bottle of the undiluted solution. The clearing time was 4.5 minutes. After seeing the clearing time, I knew that had to be the working solution and it probably shouldnt be diluted further.

At the least, my search for the dilution of the fixer was a learning experience. I assumed all fixer, even the fixer mixed from powder should be diluted, but now I know differently

BTW, that is not a 'Rapid' fixer. Dan

I realized that when I discovered the clearing time