Arista Premium 100 Film

braxus · Feb 17, 2020

I know Arista Premium 100 film is just Kodak Plus X rebranded. By why did they rate the Arista film 100 instead of 125? Also are developing times pretty much the same between the two or are they different because of the film speed difference? Should I rate the film at 125 like its supposed to be, or just 100? I picked up a couple rolls of this stuff, and like to know how to use them.

BrianShaw · Feb 17, 2020

The difference between 125 and 100 is rather insubstantial considering the latitude of B&W film.

CMoore · Feb 18, 2020

BrianShaw said:
The difference between 125 and 100 is rather insubstantial considering the latitude of B&W film.

I am just a hack Street Photographer, and a beginner, but i would think 100 Vs. 125 is within the tolerance of the camera, meter and operator.?

BrianShaw · Feb 18, 2020

Yes, it’s a .33 stop difference which generally can be set on a meter or camera. But with B&W film that difference is, for all practical purposes, considered by most to be negligible. Pick one, or the other, or split the difference... a neg of basically equally decent technical value will result.

And there always will be someone who feels it’s important to be as fiddidily “perfect”... but for practical purposes it’s more important to invest in the perfection of the composition than this level of exposure difference.

Cholentpot · Feb 18, 2020

braxus said:
I know Arista Premium 100 film is just Kodak Plus X rebranded. By why did they rate the Arista film 100 instead of 125? Also are developing times pretty much the same between the two or are they different because of the film speed difference? Should I rate the film at 125 like its supposed to be, or just 100? I picked up a couple rolls of this stuff, and like to know how to use them.

Plus-x is still being made?

Thorpelyon · Feb 18, 2020

Surely it can’t really be Plus-X!?

alanrockwood · Feb 18, 2020

Thorpelyon said:
Surely it can’t really be Plus-X!?

Old stock now doubt. I still have a few rolls of it in my fridge.

CMoore · Feb 18, 2020

alanrockwood said:
Old stock now doubt. I still have a few rolls of it in my fridge.

NOS, for sale, circa 2020.?

BrianShaw · Feb 18, 2020

I bought some just days before it was discontinued. Use by date is 2013.

EDIT: sorry, I should have been more specific. I’m talking about 35mm Plus-X.

gorbas · Feb 18, 2020

Even as Arista Premium 100 and 400 it's now old stock. I bought quite a few of 100' rolls of both emulsions. Expiry date on my remaining 400iso is 04/2014.
It looks like they got much more stock of 400 than 100? 100 was gone from Freestyle very quickly. I had quite a few issues on 100 emulsion. Glad that I'm down to few rolls left.

braxus · Feb 18, 2020

Guys- the rolls I got were dated February 2011. So yes its old stock someone was selling on Ebay recently. He has 1 roll left (not 3 as shown). The two rolls I got are now in the freezer. I also picked up a couple rolls of actual Plus X 35mm dated 2007. So no this is not Fomapan.

NB23 · Feb 18, 2020

It was a marketing move, a question of differentiation and probably not to be unmasked as an obvious rebrand.

Besides, it’s all so approximate anyways. Tri-x is really probably around 250, hp5 around 500/640, tmz around 1000/1250, tmx around 80...

gorbas · Feb 18, 2020

Arista Premium 100 was Kodak Plus X and Arista Premium 400 was Tri X. Both rebranded and in single cassettes and bulk rolls. At that time Arista also had bulk 100' rolls of Legacy Pro rebranded Fuji Acros and Neopan films.

cmacd123 · Feb 20, 2020

At the time I wondered if it was Plus-X reversal, as that film was reformulated about 6 months before the Arista Premium came out. Perhaps some of the left over old version stock could have been slit for 35mm (PXR was only sold in 16mm and smaller) and sold as a Negative film. the correct ISO of that would be close to 100. it was rated at 50 when reversal processed.

gorbas · Feb 20, 2020

Hi Charles! It looks to me that both Kodak and Fuji emptied their deep storage and moved remaining old stock to Arista. Arista Premium 400 was most abundant. I had very limited experience with Plus X in 35mm before using Arista Premium 100.

cmacd123 · Feb 20, 2020

gorbas said:
Hi Charles! It looks to me that both Kodak and Fuji emptied their deep storage and moved remaining old stock to Arista. Arista Premium 400 was most abundant. I had very limited experience with Plus X in 35mm before using Arista Premium 100.

I know I was sad when I fished the last spool of Legacy Pro 400 out of my Freezer. The legacy pro Bulk made the source obvious as it came on Eyemo/number10/35mm 100ft spools stamped "Fuji Film"

Cholentpot · Feb 20, 2020

Kodak should bring Plus-X back. It should be easy right? Just take a few X's off of Tri-X and there you go!

braxus · Feb 25, 2020

I wish they would bring back Plus X, but with the companies sale of Alaris, and the financial issues related to it, having any newly released old films (other then what is currently now out), is in question. I'd like Plus X and Panatomic X to come back, but I doubt they ever will.

MattKing · Feb 26, 2020

Kodak Alaris isn't being sold.
The UK Pension authorities who effectively own Kodak Alaris have instructed Kodak Alaris to try to sell (for a sum deemed sufficient) that portion of Kodak Alaris' business that we here are most interested in - the film, colour photographic paper and photo-chemistry part - in order to apply the proceeds of sale to the Kodak Limited Pension Plan shortfall.
If they are not able to find a buyer willing to pay enough for that business, they have indicated they will continue to operate it in its present form - it is actually making money.
And as I understand it, Kodak Alaris and Eastman Kodak are actively pursuing projects which will, if things work out, lead to the re-introduction of previously discontinued products, and maybe even new products. Their capital resources are, however, limited.

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