Arista Legacy Pro prices in new (winter '09) Freestyle catalog

SamWeiss · Jan 6, 2009

Well, the Winter 2009 catalog is now available (as a pdf) online at the Freestyle site.
http://www.freestylephoto.biz/pdf/catalog/freestyle_winter_2009_school.pdf

The LegacyPro films are now listed with price: ISO100 is $2.39 for 135-36, and ISO400 is $2.79. Strangely enough the 24 exposure roll is the same price as the 36 exposure.

We assume these are Acros and Neopan400, no? If so, the prices represent a considerable price reduction from the Fujifilm branded boxes.

Note that 100' rolls are available, for those who like Neopan and wanted rolls.

I regret that 120 size is not available

I have used a very little bit of Acros and would like to experiment more with it. This seems like a more cost effective way of doing that.

Also, since the prices are more than the Arista Premium I wonder how demand for each will shape up. I suspect that the very strong Yen reshaped the original target price.

SamWeiss · Jan 6, 2009

One quick way to compare price changes... since Freestyle has not changed the page layouts very much, is to open the new and old catalog (pdfs) in separate tabs (if your browser supports tabs), view at 100%, and flip between them. Doing so, one can notice some price changes easily. In this case, some Kodak prices have gone up while others have come down, a couple of Ilford prices went up, but some Foma prices have come down.

PhotoJim · Jan 6, 2009

I'm guessing at that price that the ISO100 is Neopan SS, not Acros, but someone will have to buy some and test it for us to know for certain.

Anon Ymous · Jan 6, 2009

PhotoJim said:
I'm guessing at that price that the ISO100 is Neopan SS, not Acros, but someone will have to buy some and test it for us to know for certain.

Or have a look at the proposed development times I suppose...

Chazzy · Jan 7, 2009

Does the catalogue say that it's made in Japan?

ElrodCod · Jan 7, 2009

Chazzy said:
Does the catalogue say that it's made in Japan?

Yes.

SamWeiss · Jan 7, 2009

Chazzy said:
Does the catalogue say that it's made in Japan?

As does the box label. As Konica is out of the film business, that leaves only Fujifilm as a source.

BTW, the online ordering now has Legacy Pro also, saying it is out of stock and expected 20 January (just in time for the new semester!)

mbsmith · Jan 7, 2009

PhotoJim said:
I'm guessing at that price that the ISO100 is Neopan SS, not Acros, but someone will have to buy some and test it for us to know for certain.

At $2.39, the Legacy would cost more than the SS...? (even after they raised the price of the SS)

:confused:

Alex Bishop-Thorpe · Jan 8, 2009

Uploaded the entry from the catalogue, for those who don't wanna download the whole thing. Here it is listed on the site too.
Looks like development data isnt listed yet, but a little detective work! If you look at the image here, it says "For processing times visit: www.fsdistribution.biz/legacyprofilm.php" in fine print - which is a dead link. Closest I came was this: http://www.fsdistribution.biz/index.php?l=legacypro. So we don't have the development data to work off yet, it seems. I'm leaning towards it being Neopan SS though.

SamWeiss · Jan 8, 2009

Fleath said:
I'm leaning towards it being Neopan SS though.

As Freestyle describes the film thusly: "LegacyPro® 100 features unparalleled tight grain " ... gives me the impression that they are speaking of Acros. Surely the development times will be listed before shipment on the 20th, so we will soon know.

PhotoJim · Jan 8, 2009

That does sound like Acros. Indeed, we will know soon.

Andrew Moxom · Jan 8, 2009

they need to make it in 120 and sheet formats too! Then we'd be talking

DeBone 75 · Jan 9, 2009

"they need to make it in 120 and sheet formats too! Then we'd be talking "
uh ha

TLR · Jan 14, 2009

Well, the developing times published http://www.freestylephoto.biz/194241-Legacy-Pro-BandW-100-ISO-35mm-x-24-exposures
Conclusion: Across.

jim appleyard · Jan 14, 2009

It's still a great time to be a film photographer! Just when they said it was dead, we now have Premium, Legacy & the Ultrafine films to choose from (in addition to the brand names) , plus the return of some Agfa papers and rumors of APX 100 & 400 returning.

Now, if we can get Freestyle to get Pan X, K-25, Super XX, Ektar 25, etc. rolling again...are you listening Freestyle? (we know you are )

clayne · Jan 18, 2009

I'd be very surprised if that was Acros as it's a significantly cheaper price than normal (then again so is Premium 400 vs 400TX). The 400 is probably 400-PR (Neopan 400).

SamWeiss · Jan 18, 2009

Solid evidence now points to it being Acros. Don't be surprised that one can find Fujifilm b&w so cheaply. In 120 size, Acros is the least expensive film I can find from the Big 3 makers of b&w. Indeed, Fujifilm label 120 size Acros is no more expensive than the Freestyle Arista Legacy Pro 100 35mm film!

Marco S. · Jan 21, 2009

I emailed Freestyle and was told availability is this coming Monday, January 26.

Venchka · Jan 21, 2009

Marco S. said:
I emailed Freestyle and was told availability is this coming Monday, January 26.

Did you ask, "Should I treat this film like Fujifilm Neopan 100 Acros?"

clayne · Jan 21, 2009

At these prices, my freezer will be acquiring a couple hundred more feet of film.

clayne · Jan 27, 2009

Times are out guys.

LP100 is:
D-76 1+0: 7.25
D-76 1+1: 10.5

LP400 is:
D-76 1+0: 6.5
D-76 1+1: 9.5

These times exactly line up with Fujifilm Acros 100 and Fujiifilm Neopan 400.

Ektagraphic · Mar 21, 2009

jim appleyard said:
It's still a great time to be a film photographer! Just when they said it was dead, we now have Premium, Legacy & the Ultrafine films to choose from (in addition to the brand names) , plus the return of some Agfa papers and rumors of APX 100 & 400 returning.

Now, if we can get Freestyle to get Pan X, K-25, Super XX, Ektar 25, etc. rolling again...are you listening Freestyle? (we know you are )

I think we will all need to show extreme (much more so than now) intrest in the current Kodachrome 64 to get any other speeds back.

Arista Legacy Pro prices in new (winter '09) Freestyle catalog

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