Archival Stability Ilford XP2 Super developed in B&W Chemistry

Here is an older thread on the subject of developing XP2 Super in black and white developers:

https://www.photrio.com/forum/threads/ilford-xp2-super-in-b-w-chemicals.145287/print

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drkhalsa said:

Here is an older thread on the subject of developing XP2 Super in black and white developers:

https://www.photrio.com/forum/threads/ilford-xp2-super-in-b-w-chemicals.145287/print

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Good one. I did a search and came up with that same thread last night as well. Worth a read IMO. There are several on this subject worth looking at. Interestingly there seemed to be much less hostility there than has occurred on this thread.

I could not come up with any reasons why this should be. Maybe Photrio is just getting grouchier. We need to take a long hard look at ourselves if this is the case.

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jnanian said:

hey matt

just to add to what you said
not sure who told this to me but the xpsuper negatives
were sometimes printed in a mini lab but the lab sometimes had to
sandwich a sheet of color negative film that had nothing on it but the orange mask
this person told me the brand of film to, "kodak gold"

but YMMV

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The idea of colour neg/B&W neg sandwich was when negs were printed optically and the orange mask was to help the printer's colour correction "think " it was a colour neg. I tried this many years ago (before we had Frontier digital scanner) and at best it produces near b&w images, they still had colour cast. Around that time (early 1990's) Konica made a colour process paper that produced b&w prints , a bit like a paper version of XP2. We gave up using the orange mask and just printed on the Konica paper.

On any lab printer/scanner like the Fuji Frontier or Kodak Pakon, the neg is scanned. In the case of standard b&w or XP2 negs, the scanner needed to be set to b&w and it would the produce a b&w image with no colour casts. In the case of Kodak BW400CN (which had an orange mask) the software saw the orange mask and thought it was a colour film and if scanned as such produced colour cast images. The trick was to select the software to B&W output, like desaturate in Photoshop, and the image would appear b&w

FujiLove said:

Thanks - I read through that thread a few days ago and the one thing they haven’t discussed is how it prints.

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It prints perfectly well, but you might need to use test strips for exposure rather than a meter. My RH Analyser Pro tends to be fooled by the purple base.

Ilford has made a mash-up of my thoughts and photos using XP2 Super in HC-110, L110, Ilfotec Hc here.

+1 even with standard C41 development my RH Designs Analyser Pro is confused by XP2.

drmoss_ca said:

It prints perfectly well, but you might need to use test strips for exposure rather than a meter. My RH Analyser Pro tends to be fooled by the purple base.

Ilford has made a mash-up of my thoughts and photos using XP2 Super in HC-110, L110, Ilfotec Hc here.

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Thanks for confirming. I always split grade print manually anyway, so no extra work required.