Arca Swiss revolving back or not?

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Kyle M.

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I bought an Arca Swiss Series A 4x5 on an impulse last week, and it arrived yesterday. So far I'm very happy with the camera but I have a couple of questions. First of all the back looks like it should be a revolving back but as far as I can tell it doesn't rotate. The two pieces of the back were somehow separated in shipping at the point where it looks like it would rotate. I was able to put it back together without using much force but as far as I could tell there were no locking tabs or a ridge or anything to keep it together, it just seems like they press together and stay that way. Is this simply a non revolving back that looks like it should revolve? I know that I can simply remove the whole unit from the rear standard and flip it to either portrait or landscape orientation but if this is a revolving back I'd like to get it revolving again. My other question involves the ground glass. At some point a previous owner replaced it with what is simply a piece of clear glass with a thin piece of plastic only a few thousandths of an inch think underneath it with a grid pattern on it. This sheet of plastic has the overall look of frosted glass but I have no clue what it actually is. My question is did this camera originally have a piece of glass with a fresnel underneath it? Or was in just simply a sheet of frosted glass? And what should I buy and or use to get it back as close to original as possible. The current setup seems to be working fine but the glass is slightly small and there are small wooden shims under the clips that hold the glass in the frame, overall it just appears like it was cobbled together in a hurry. The thickness seems right as the two shots I've taken so far are sharp, I'm just not sure what to do about replacing it and keeping that spacing right. The first image is not of my particular camera but it shows the part of the back that I believe should rotate. The other two are of my camera. Thanks in advance for any help.
 

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RodKlukas

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I bought an Arca Swiss Series A 4x5 on an impulse last week, and it arrived yesterday. So far I'm very happy with the camera but I have a couple of questions. First of all the back looks like it should be a revolving back but as far as I can tell it doesn't rotate. The two pieces of the back were somehow separated in shipping at the point where it looks like it would rotate. I was able to put it back together without using much force but as far as I could tell there were no locking tabs or a ridge or anything to keep it together, it just seems like they press together and stay that way. Is this simply a non revolving back that looks like it should revolve? I know that I can simply remove the whole unit from the rear standard and flip it to either portrait or landscape orientation but if this is a revolving back I'd like to get it revolving again. My other question involves the ground glass. At some point a previous owner replaced it with what is simply a piece of clear glass with a thin piece of plastic only a few thousandths of an inch think underneath it with a grid pattern on it. This sheet of plastic has the overall look of frosted glass but I have no clue what it actually is. My question is did this camera originally have a piece of glass with a fresnel underneath it? Or was in just simply a sheet of frosted glass? And what should I buy and or use to get it back as close to original as possible. The current setup seems to be working fine but the glass is slightly small and there are small wooden shims under the clips that hold the glass in the frame, overall it just appears like it was cobbled together in a hurry. The thickness seems right as the two shots I've taken so far are sharp, I'm just not sure what to do about replacing it and keeping that spacing right. The first image is not of my particular camera but it shows the part of the back that I believe should rotate. The other two are of my camera. Thanks in advance for any help.

I believe you are correct that while it has nested tubes at the aback appearing to have the rotation option, it does not. I have seen several of these floating around.
You should be using a real Arca-Swiss Ground glass. These cameras shipped with a ground glass, and a fresnel was available. One of the previous owners may have broken the glass and tried to rig a solution, but never went further to replace the original.
The current glass is much better than that of 1984 and older any way.
They are available.
Precision Camera Works can repair and reset the back so it is zeroed and correctly aligned.
help@precisioncameraworks.com

Contact me if you have more questions.
Be well,
Rod
 
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I believe you are correct that while it has nested tubes at the aback appearing to have the rotation option, it does not. I have seen several of these floating around.
You should be using a real Arca-Swiss Ground glass. These cameras shipped with a ground glass, and a fresnel was available. One of the previous owners may have broken the glass and tried to rig a solution, but never went further to replace the original.
The current glass is much better than that of 1984 and older any way.
They are available.
Precision Camera Works can repair and reset the back so it is zeroed and correctly aligned.
help@precisioncameraworks.com

Contact me if you have more questions.
Be well,
Rod

Thanks Rod, good to know about the back most likely not being rotating. At least now I won't be worried that I missed something or messed something up, and it's really not a big deal to pull it off and flip it. I'm used to using a Crown Graphic which has absolutely no method of rotating the back, therefore I had to rotate the whole camera. Not sure what I'll do about the glass at this point, if whats in there is working as well as it seems to be I'll likely use it for the time being. I really don't feel like sending it off to have the glass replaced, I'm gonna do some more research and see what kind of other options there might be.
 
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