Well, everything seems to be divided fairly equally in terms of both dates and meeting place. May I throw in my two-pennyworth? If North Devon is chosen, The accommodation is as follows: The w/end of 12/13th Oct is already fully booked; w/end 19/20th they have 14 beds available; w/end 26/27th they have 11 beds available. Cost? £35 single; £70 double. These are B&B prices, but they have an excellent pub/restaurant for the evening and no doubt once numbers were definitely known an evening meal could be arranged. Now the second factor is tides. The w/end of the 12/13th is ideal - high tide in the morning @7AMish; the 19/20th is high tide at mid day (not good!), the 19/20th is again 7 AMish (very good). In this part of the world bookings have to be pretty early otherwise, the've gone. There is accommodation in the village of Hartland (about 1-2 miles from the coast, but other than a farmhouse that I know near Welcombe Bay (south of Hartland by a couple of miles or so) I know nothing of them. I am prepared to visit the area and squirrel out more facts if you so wish. I hope it doesn't look as though I am dragooning you into North Devon but I think a few facts have to be known so that members can make an informed judgement. I shan't be at all offended if you tell me to jump on my tripod! John Stredwick (pyrometol)