Apug conference

photomc · Aug 12, 2004

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How about Les, Gainer, Sandy, Kerik, Clay, Thom Haarop (sp?), Per just to get started and that's folks we here from on this site.

Then Burce B, Don Kirby, etc.

Tech. Presentations: Maybe Plt/Pld, Gum, etc for the Alt Process crowd
Intro to processing sheet film vs roll film
Toning - Tim Rudman like discussion (maybe Ann could do this since she has a class on it anyhow.

Since we seem to have a increasing interest in wet/dry plate,

Plus it would be a great to for Jim C to demo his new ULF cameras...

Just ideal thoughts from someone wishing this was happening this weekend. ;^)

papagene · Aug 12, 2004

Please choose an affordable site. Money will become very tight for me the next few months. But I would really love to meet with many of the APUG members and would REALLY like to see their work in person - a print exchange or sale would be great.
gene

Aggie · Aug 12, 2004

just remember this is for more than just large format photographers.

Thoughts on Vegas, after May it is really hot until about mid Oct. Given other places in the summer, If it is not terribly hot, it is humid.

Could I suggest before labor day weekend? It is still reasonable temps if it were to be in vegas. The huge summer crowds have not started. Some places have not put in their high traffic prices.

I think having people who are apuggers speak is a great idea.

Not everyone is going to fit into a time frame that it would be held. Not everyone is going to make it to the country it is held in. That is why we can at least move it venue wise from year to year. It could shift from one group of apuggers doing the conf. to another. Kinda like the olympics. that way no one has to get burnt out doing the work.

I would also like to see about setting up a fund where if a person has a few extra (insert your currency) dollars they wanted to donate, that a we could use to help those who are in finacial straights in other countries make it to the conf. Kinda like a scholarship fund. It could be done a lottery basis. This is just a thought.

Sean · Aug 12, 2004

*just brainstorming

several kiosks running apug.org would be cool..

John McCallum · Aug 12, 2004

Great ideas. Bet we could wrangle some corporate sponsorship with a little selling effort.

Sean said:
*just brainstorming

several kiosks running apug.org would be cool..

We had a convention in Wellington recently sponsored by Fuji. We only had 200 people but Fuji still contributed a LOT. Apart from their latest Digigizmoes .... plenty of film, sponsored dinner, etc.

kwmullet · Aug 12, 2004

I think the conference should be held at the same time as one of this big digital photography conferences in Vegas. A sure-fire way to get a lot of press, methinks. Hell... maybe it could even be held in conjunction with one -- sort of a yin/yang, republican/democrat, chocolate/vanilla, Ginger/Mary Ann, Bailey/Jennifer sort of thing.

-KwM-

Shmoo · Aug 12, 2004

How about San Diego? Great convention town. Beautiful city, 130 mi. south of LA. Weather's great all year around (except for the June gloom - overcast). If you want to get to Vegas, LA, SF, it's an easy hop...just a thought.

John McCallum · Aug 12, 2004

Any takers on Whangaparoa Peninsula, New Zealand. Nice beaches, fishing, sailing ..... anyone? ...... Sean ...... (kidding)

David A. Goldfarb · Aug 12, 2004

Vegas is hot in the summer, but it's usually thirty degrees cooler up by Mt. Charleston, and lots of good photographs to be had up there. Of course in the casinos it's always cool and about 9:30 in the evening, 24 hours a day.

photomc · Aug 12, 2004

Aggie said:
just remember this is for more than just large format photographers.

Thoughts on Vegas, after May it is really hot until about mid Oct. Given other places in the summer, If it is not terribly hot, it is humid.

Could I suggest before labor day weekend? It is still reasonable temps if it were to be in vegas. The huge summer crowds have not started. Some places have not put in their high traffic prices.

I think having people who are apuggers speak is a great idea.

Not everyone is going to fit into a time frame that it would be held. Not everyone is going to make it to the country it is held in. That is why we can at least move it venue wise from year to year. It could shift from one group of apuggers doing the conf. to another. Kinda like the olympics. that way no one has to get burnt out doing the work.

I would also like to see about setting up a fund where if a person has a few extra (insert your currency) dollars they wanted to donate, that a we could use to help those who are in finacial straights in other countries make it to the conf. Kinda like a scholarship fund. It could be done a lottery basis. This is just a thought.

Great Idea Aggie, the idea of sending an APUG member from somewhere other than the host location (read country) is a super idea. Now everyone will not be happy if they don't get to go, but the idea of it becoming a regional thing does work. Europe/UK one year, South/Central America another, Aust/NZ the next, US/CA the next. Perhaps some of the speakers could be setup to do a tele/vedio conference - hell, maybe a web conference so that those that can't make it could still listen/see what is going on -- we could show the world that we accept the ditital technology, just choose to practice analog photography. Now that would be cool!!! (I cant believe I said that!). Now set this up so it occurs opposite some of the large format conference (like Photoarts Santa Fe) and I think we could pull in more people (or have it around the same time...just typing out loud.

jd callow · Aug 12, 2004

we could also have one conference date and 4 conferences, 1 each for N.America, AU NZ, Europe, and S/C America.

With video internet conferencing a couple times a day during specific events.

John McCallum · Aug 12, 2004

mrcallow said:
we could also have one conference date and 4 conferences, 1 each for N.America, AU NZ, Europe, and S/C America.

With video internet conferencing a couple times a day during specific events.

Now THERE's an idea. Guess that success would depend on numbers.

p.s. you'd put your cloths on for the cross-processing presentation eh(?)

Aggie · Aug 12, 2004

Do you know how much work is involved in just putting on one conf. at a time? I may have in house geeks, but I have no clue how to do the video conf. for the internet of the whole thing. This thing may turn into a major event where the last vestiges of analog are showcased. Look at how fast J&C stepped up to say they would support us. Given how many smaller manufacturers are mostly analog oriented, I think there might be a huge amount of interest in this. If all apug members talked it up in their are of the world, lots more would be interested. What we could do is video the whole thing so those who can't be there can see it. Sell the DVD's for a nominal amount to pay costs of making it, and a smal bit for donation to support apug. (can't tell my first degree was in marketing!)

jd callow · Aug 12, 2004

Aggie said:
Do you know how much work is involved in just putting on one conf. at a time? I may have in house geeks, but I have no clue how to do the video conf. for the internet of the whole thing. This thing may turn into a major event where the last vestiges of analog are showcased. Look at how fast J&C stepped up to say they would support us. Given how many smaller manufacturers are mostly analog oriented, I think there might be a huge amount of interest in this. If all apug members talked it up in their are of the world, lots more would be interested. What we could do is video the whole thing so those who can't be there can see it. Sell the DVD's for a nominal amount to pay costs of making it, and a smal bit for donation to support apug. (can't tell my first degree was in marketing!)

As much as I think Apug is great. I would be happy and think the conference was a success if 30-50 members (plus friends) showed up -- surprised if it were more.

I suspect we'd get similar or slightly smaller crowds at the other locations.

I would think this whole thing could be done pretty informally, and without a lot of heart ache.

Setting up an internet video feed is easy and would only be used for talks or demos. It requires a fast computer on site to compile and a fat pipe to a server. This type of setup has a healthy lag time but produces porn site quality.

We aren't selling anything, success would be measured by the level of enjoyment. Although the thought of a door prize and wearing my name on my lapel is enticing, I would be going to meet the apugers and shoot pictures.

If we got Les and a few others to give a demo or a talk that would be great -- the same would go for JandC and any other venders. Neither item would make or break the conference nor would either item cause there to be a room shortage in Ferndale let alone Vegas.

BWGirl · Aug 12, 2004

My husband belonged to an international organization for 'nerds'. They have a conference every year in a different location. I always called it the largest gathering of nerds in the world. Spouses always came to this week-long event and there were tours and welcome receptions and just tons of fun (yep, even nerds have fun...odd fun, but fun none the less). If you want to check out the 'nerd herd' symposium site, it's Dead Link Removed

That would be cool if we could have like sponsor cities/areas each year. It would require quite a bit of work to get it organized. I don't think Aggie's suggesting we all hop on a plane next week for Vegas, San Diego, or anywhere else, so it would have to be like maybe this time next year to give time for everything to fall into place. But it would be way cool & I'd really be interested in it!

Great idea, Aggie!!
Jeanette

bmac · Aug 12, 2004

I'm thinking more along the lines of a get together than a cxonference, but that could be due to going to too many conferences in my professional life and having a bad view on most of them. More like a everyone show up at XXX and we' ll have dinner at YYY, and print viewing atLLL etc

Flotsam · Aug 13, 2004

I like John's idea.
Which way do I turn when I get to Philadelphia?
I understand that there is a tourist attraction somewhere in NZ called "The Amazing Monster Enlarger". Where do I buy tickets?

jd callow · Aug 13, 2004

bmac said:
I'm thinking more along the lines of a get together than a cxonference, but that could be due to going to too many conferences in my professional life and having a bad view on most of them. More like a everyone show up at XXX and we' ll have dinner at YYY, and print viewing atLLL etc

My thoughts exactly! The more fun and games we can schedule the better. Such as some morning, dusk and night shootings followed by adult beverages and maybe preceeded by talks by those in the group who do this sort of thing well. I think a Thursday- Sunday thing with most of the stuff scheduled Friday through Sunday morning.

I'm not a planner, at least not an event planner so I'll leave it alone. If I can help I will.

Thomassauerwein · Aug 13, 2004

I don't want to dampen enthusiasm because I think this is a great idea. But a conferance infers lots of people, This site has 2000 some odd members yet on a rotating basis there is only a small continiuous core that contribute. Then add geography to the mix plus timing the idea of a convention seems over zealous.

A get together perhaps with each member contributing a presentation on a portion of their process. Then group explorations of the area.

At the outset conferance seems to large a project with to high a expectation yet a get together with the growth potential for the furture seems more practical.

John McCallum · Aug 13, 2004

bmac said:
I'm thinking more along the lines of a get together than a cxonference, but that could be due to going to too many conferences in my professional life and having a bad view on most of them. More like a everyone show up at XXX and we' ll have dinner at YYY, and print viewing atLLL etc

Actually that sounds more like what I was really thinking as well (re corporate sponsorship - sorry was just thinking aloud ). But money and organising helps, and jazzing it up (a little) could help me justify a flight to the US from NZ for the weekend ..... or so. I'm positive others would want to come from Europe / UK also ....

rogueish · Aug 13, 2004

Flotsam said:
Which way do I turn when I get to Philadelphia?

Like Bugs always says "I shoulda' turned left in Alberquecky!"
Great idea, conference or get together either way. Unfortunately due to time and money, I won't be able to attend unless within "reasonable" driving distance (as the missus would say). Sorry but I've heard it's hard to drive to NZ :rolleyes:
Willing to help any way I can but might prove to be limited. Vegas would be cool (pun intended) but there are sooo many other nice places also easy to get to. (Not that I have anything against the town of course.) With the current state of tourism, many destinations/airlines/travel groups are bending over backwards to attract people (wouldn't that make an intresting pic?)

eclarke · Aug 13, 2004

Also, Red rock in the summer has 2 states of light, dark or blazing bright with clear blue sky. The middle of winter would be best or early November if there was interest in going up to Death Valley..Evan Clarke

rusty_tripod · Aug 13, 2004

Not Phoenix in the summertime unless you want to spend all of your time at the pool or bar. Albuquerque could be okay. Las Vegas is also hot in the summer.

If you are considering having individuals, small classes or groups go out on location during various parts of the event, temperature might be an issue.

Rusty

david b · Aug 13, 2004

rusty_tripod said:
Not Phoenix in the summertime unless you want to spend all of your time at the pool or bar. Albuquerque could be okay. Las Vegas is also hot in the summer.

If you are considering having individuals, small classes or groups go out on location during various parts of the event, temperature might be an issue.

Rusty

If planning in NM, Albuquerque will easily reach upper 90's in the summer, where Santa Fe will reach upper 80's. At night the temp drops about 25 degrees. Very nice. From Santa Fe, we can reach many photographic areas much easier than Albuquerque, which is 60 miles south.

I could easily set up a few day trips. If Santa Fe is chosen, I can do the leg work to find a group rate at local hotels, restaurants, etc.

Just let me know.

Eric Rose · Aug 13, 2004

did I hear someone say spend all our time at the bar??!! ummmmmmmm beeeerrrrrr.

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