APUG book project

guitstik · Jul 18, 2011

This thread is to determine how many entries and what categories we will have in the APUG book.
What I will need is:
Name:
Format:
Printing
Format:
Subject
Matter:

There are probably more items I will need to know but this is to get the ball rolling and determine what is going to be involved. I can guess that if the numbers are to large there will be limitations. I would like to keep this thread as "information only"
and keep discussion down to a minimum. If there are any of you out there that has expertise with this please PM me.

Michel Hardy-Vallée · Jul 18, 2011

Name: Michel Hardy-Vallée
Format: 35mm, 6x6
Printing
Format: Gelatin silver
Subject
Matter: Manufactured landscape

photo8x10 · Jul 18, 2011

Name:Stefano Germi
Format: 8x10",8x20"
Printing
Format:8x10" or 8x20" Contact Print on silver-chloride paper
Subject
Matter:Landscape,close-up,nude,potrait...

guitstik · Jul 18, 2011

Thanks guys. Let me make a clarification, printing format should be lithography, cyanotype or something along those lines. Each has it's own quirks when it comes to being reproduced in either a magazine or a book and the printer will most likely need to know this. It is also helpful in case we need to break this down into by categories. Keep em coming, let's see how big this is going to be. I would like to know if we will have to do a one off book or a series.

ath · Jul 18, 2011

Name: Andreas Theil
Format: 35mm
Printing
Format: b&w silver gelantine
Subject
Matter: sea-, city-, land-scape

Michel Hardy-Vallée · Jul 18, 2011

guitstik said:
Thanks guys. Let me make a clarification, printing format should be lithography, cyanotype or something along those lines. Each has it's own quirks when it comes to being reproduced in either a magazine or a book and the printer will most likely need to know this. It is also helpful in case we need to break this down into by categories. Keep em coming, let's see how big this is going to be. I would like to know if we will have to do a one off book or a series.

Wouldn't "medium" or something similar be more appropriate than "format" then?

Marco B · Jul 18, 2011

Name: Marco Boeringa
Format: 35mm and 4x5
Printing Format: Silver gelatin
Subject Matter: Architecture / Night photography, Landscape / Forest

Ian Grant · Jul 18, 2011

Name: Ian Grant
Format: 35mm, 645, 6x6, 6x9, Quarter plate, 9x12, 5x4, Half Plate, 10x8
Printing
Format: B&W silver gelatin, Plat/Palladium, alt processes
Subject
Matter: Landscapes, nudes, portraits, Rock bands, Industrial & General archaeology.

But this thread is running before it begins to walk these questions are irrelevant at this stage.

Ian

mooseontheloose · Jul 18, 2011

Ian Grant said:
But this thread is running before it begins to walk these questions are irrelevant at this stage.

Ian

I agree. Wouldn't this information be more useful for the final, chosen photographs? How many submissions are people going to be allowed to make? What if each submission is in a different printing medium?

Also, not everyone wants their proper name posted on the internet (for various legitimate reasons) so I find it a little off-putting to have to post my full name for what is basically a survey.

guitstik · Jul 18, 2011

Your probably right, I may be jumping the gun a bit but I am trying to see how much interest there is in this project. If anyone has a problem putting their name on this now it is optional. At this point I have no idea how many entries one person can have, it all depends on space and howany we can get involved. At some point in time I will have to have X number of firm commitments for purchase and I figure about 20% of initial interested parties to be about what others sites have experienced.*

I have contacted several publishers with a slew of questions and now it is just a matter of hearing back with the answers. Most publishers tho will want to keep the profits off of the sales and I have no problem with that. The problem lies with the viability, how many firm commitments do we have? That is the question they will*want an answer to before they will even look at this. My goal is to make this an objet d'art in and of it's self, something you could set on your coffee table and be proud of and to that end I am searching out regular publishing houses instead of some Internet site.

Michael A. Smith · Jul 19, 2011

Ian told you correctly. Your "survey" is way premature.

APUG should be the publisher of record. Profits, if any, should go the the photographers.

Michael A. Smith

jordanstarr · Jul 19, 2011

Name: Jordan Starr
Format: 120 and 35mm
Printing
Format: Silver Gelatin prints (Fibre-based)
Subject
Matter: Documentary

Christopher Walrath · Jul 19, 2011

I would see how much interest there is, how many participants. I could see over 150 participants and I would think one photograph each would be a good place to be. I would hope there would be more.

removed account4 · Jul 19, 2011

Michael A. Smith said:
Ian told you correctly. Your "survey" is way premature.

APUG should be the publisher of record. Profits, if any, should go the the photographers.

Michael A. Smith

i think profits should go to APUG

hoffy · Jul 19, 2011

jnanian said:
i think profits should go to APUG

Will APUG also bear the burden of a loss if no profits are made?

I don't know the answer for this, as I would assume that the aim of such a project financially would be to break even. If there was a profit, maybe some form of charity (but then there is always arguements on which one...)

2F/2F · Jul 19, 2011

Is there a thread that explains the project?

removed account4 · Jul 20, 2011

2F/2F said:
Is there a thread that explains the project?

hey keith

(there was a url link here which no longer exists)

hoffy

i agree with you ... and that is why i think POD might be
the way to go, very low costs compared to a high end printing company
and the expense of storage.

2F/2F · Jul 20, 2011

Thanks, John.

Sean · Jul 20, 2011

Just for the record I have no interest in profit from this so don't let that hold anything back. If a book of beautiful quality is produced and represents the APUG community in a positive way, then that is all the reward I would hope for. This is no easy task so whoever pulls this off should be compensated for their work.

guitstik · Jul 20, 2011

I don't want anyone to think that profit is my motivation for this either. The impetus for this was the fact that I see so much beautiful work by so many artist that I would like to own and I felt others might feel the same way.

ath · Jul 20, 2011

I think the financial issues should be clarified before going further:
- POD or shell out money for a print run?
- who gets money for what and why?

Mark Fisher · Jul 20, 2011

I'll play:
Name: Mark Fisher
Format: medium format 6x4.5 and 6x6
Printing
Format: Toned Silver Gelatin
Subject
Matter: China

dugrant153 · Jul 20, 2011

Name: Jonathan Desmond
Format: 645 Medium format and 35mm
Printing
Format: Hybrid Workflow
Subject
Matter: Documentary/Photojournalism, Fine Art, People

guitstik · Jul 21, 2011

This list is encouraging but I have been informed we don't need all this info just who is willing to send me their best print or scan.

Just to let you know, I will take them and log them in so that only I will know who's is who's. I'll number the prints and send them onto Michael who will evaluate them and determine which ones would go into the book. The greater the number of entries the lower the cost to the artist who are picked because those numbers will also determine how big the book will be.

Cost has always been a factor. If the cost is to high we will work on ways to bring it down without sacrificing quality that is were having more folks involved will be beneficial. If after everything thar can be done has been done and the cost is still to high then we can start looking to less expensive avenues but until then let's exhaust all options with this plan first.

My goal from the beginning has been to create a book that is as much art as the art that fills it and Sean has given Michael high praise by directing me to Lodima press for this project.

samcomet · Jul 22, 2011

I would be pleased to join in....Sam Bienstock. Thanks and cheers!

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