APS - the super-wide halfframe?

Since the APS films are just 24mm wide, compared to 35mm, does that count here?

Also, does anyone know of a APS camera that is morer like say an old Pen D, than the modern wizz-bang cameras that came out when there was some sort of rage for the new film format?

I have an old Fuji, that hides inside an exquisite alu-case, its my smallest serious camera, after a Minolta 16 II, but I would love to have one that was more like an Olympus Trip or a Pen D....

Eric, you have opened up a new world to me. I have never bothered even looking at APS cameras and/or film.

There are indeed some bargains to be had on the e-bay.

Do you reload the film? Presumably developing it yourself means that there is no magnetic record? Does that matter, even? Slitting 35mm of the sprocket holes would allow you greater access to B&W film as I noticed there isn't much offering. Only C-41 B&W. The cassettes are coded tho.

Mm ... very interesting.

Murray

C41 B&W are absolutely no problem, once you know your way around instant cofee and vitamin C!

I guess the magnetic record will still be there unaffected by any developer, its the whole rationale of the stuff! But reloading is out of the question AFAIK, since I break the cartridge for good when opening the pesky things!

I return to my question : which APS camera, except for the Canon/NIkon/Minolta SLRs are the most camera-like APS cameras?

OKAY, so I can report my first developed APS film.

I adjusted a reel to allow for a 24mm film, between the 16mm and 35mm notches that was already there, by way of a fine saw and a file (9,5mm - 3/8" from the 35mm notch, took all of 5 minutes).
Developed the film in Caffenol, after Reinhold's formula CC-M, with KBr to get rid if chemical fogging, for 15 minutes @ 20 C. Developed as usual 30 sec agitation at first followed by 5 sec / minute, used 1% stop bath and normal fixer.

The film is still being in the last wash, but I had a peek and can see my normal, quite strong B&W negatives on the (previously) color film.

I don't have the faintest idea of what IS on the film, this is another funny story from E-bay, I bought 5 films outdated and the guy went at great lengths, explaining "i really know nothing about this", the usual SMART type at ebay...
Now when the films came one was already exposed - and frankly I couldn't care less, the bid was 0.99c, postage was more, and I used the film as my test vehicle, since APS films are normally automagically exposed right in newfangled automatic cameras, that adjusts exposure automatically and correctly.

Now I have a VERY valuable datapoint, allowing me to go on with my first roll and be dead certain I will have it developed right.
The only fly in the ointment was opening the pesky APS cannister, that baby fore sure cannot be reloaded!

But I heartly recommend grabbing all that APS film you can, shoot it and develop it B&W in Caffenol!

Update on the developed APS :

A closer inspection revealed that the film developed along with a Kodak Gold 200 coror negative film (which came out as a B&W negative film as usual) did show unexpected results.

The APS Advantix film, developed in a B&W developer came out as a well developed color negative fim, the negatives are color and seem to be well balanced color even!

I heartly recommend others to experiment here, go visit Reinhold's blog and read up on Caffenol developers!