Anyone tested the Fuji Bromide Rembrandt?

Magnus W · Nov 3, 2006

I'm curious about this paper, what is the look and feel of it.

-- MW

Michael W · Nov 3, 2006

I bought a box about 8 months ago along with some Neopan.
I thought that Neopan is such a good film that Fuji can probably also make a good B&W paper.
It's a single weight multigrade fibre base, I think you can choose between a default contrast of grade 2 or 3.
I chose the grade 2.
I've only used it for one session & that was about 5 months ago.
I was printing an image on some Kodak Polymax (excellent B&W paper, sad to see that one go) & once I got that right I tried for the best print using the Rembrandt. It was different enough from the Polymax that I had to change both the filter & enlarger time. I can't recall in which direction. Overall I wasn't that impressed with the look of the paper. I much preferred the Polymax.
I've still got most of the box & I will use it up in some more tests.

Sorry I can't give more exact details, I'd have to dig out my notebook & sample prints, but it doesn't really seem worth it for the results of one session.

dancqu · Nov 3, 2006

Magnus W said:
I'm curious about this paper, what is the look and feel of it. MW

You have noticed that it is a VC paper? The 2 covers the
low end and the 3 covers the high end. From that I'd think
it will do a better job of delivering the extreme grades
of contrast. Dan

Petzi · Nov 3, 2006

The VC paper with default grade 3 was discontinued.

momonga · Nov 4, 2006

Rembrandt is (or maybe 'was') available in a DW ('G') and SW ('F') version. The SW has what is described as a 'pure white' base, the DW merely a white base.

I have never seen prints made with the SW, but I have several samples of the DW that Fuji gave out when the paper was first introduced: small, mass produced prints (eg, a silver flute on a dark background). I've also seen larger prints on display. A rather heavy, moody look. It reminds me of Kodak Elite.

I've never used it because I prefer the look of other papers.

The choice of both default grade 2 and grade 3 versions was interesting. The total contrast range of both was nearly the same. However, the grade 3 version allowed finer changes in the higher contrast grades, at the expense of less choice in the lower contrast. This was intended for small format workers who often target grade 3 paper as their baseline, rather than grade 2.

Magnus W · Nov 6, 2006

Thanks. I'm a bit more enlightened, but still curious. The comparison to Kodak Elite is a selling point to me, as I really liked that paper. I guess I have to order a small box and try it out.

-- MW

Bob Carnie · Nov 6, 2006

I used the VC paper double weight and found it to be a very nice paper, slightly warmer than Ilford MG .
I would buy this paper if it was available in Canada.

firecracker · Nov 28, 2006

I've just used the G2 paper tonight for the first time, and I was pretty happy with the results I got. Dektol 1:3 worked well, and I tested without the filteration.

The paper looks slightly warmer than the neutral-tone Ilford MG FB paper, but not nearly as warm as the old warm-tone Agfa MC FB. That's all I can say.

firecracker · Nov 28, 2006

I have to add that the base color of the G2 paper is a bit creamy white and slightly yellowish compared to the Ilford neutral paper, which is more like pure white to me.

But the difference is very little; you have to do a side-by-side comparison to see it.

avandesande · Nov 29, 2006

Does anyone know how much shipping to the US costs? I don't feel like creating an account just to get shipping charges.

Bob Carnie · Nov 29, 2006

The shipping and duties into Canada is what killed me with this product, It was insane and scared me away from this very nice paper.

avandesande said:
Does anyone know how much shipping to the US costs? I don't feel like creating an account just to get shipping charges.

avandesande · Nov 29, 2006

I don't understand why fuji doesn't let b&h 'gray market' their LF films and the paper.

firecracker · Nov 29, 2006

Bob Carnie said:
The shipping and duties into Canada is what killed me with this product, It was insane and scared me away from this very nice paper.

The 50-sheet box of 8x10" G2 FB paper is about 5,600 yen in the Japanese market that is around 50 USD. There's no 100-sheet box for this size. The minimum is 20 sheets, not 25sheets.

The 50-sheet box of 11x14" G2 FB paper is around 85 bucks.

firecracker · Nov 30, 2006

avandesande said:
I don't understand why fuji doesn't let b&h 'gray market' their LF films and the paper.

If you want to try it, you can get a 8x10" 20-sheet pack for 2,200 yen that is around 20 bucks. The shipping won't kill you.

By the way, do you really need this paper? It's just like Ilford, but slightly warmer when you print. It's a new product that's been out for less than a few years, I think. So, in many years, I don't know how the prints will look. I'm pretty sure that, in the natutral aging process, they will get tanned and turn a bit yellow or brown ust like any paper material.

I use the Fuji because the Ilford lineup in Japan is too slim. And I have a strong opinion about not to use the excessive shipment/delivery service on pretty much anything I get these days. To me it looks like it's costing way too much on the environment.

avandesande · Dec 1, 2006

I am interested in the paper because I like single weight.
The acros films speak for themselves!

Anyone tested the Fuji Bromide Rembrandt?

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