Another One Bites The Dust

MikeK · Dec 20, 2006

Today was the last day in business for Reeds Camera in Walnut Creek, CA. While not one of my favorites it has been around for a long, long time. That really only leaves The Looking Glass in Berkley as the nearest store for film and paper.

They were having an "everything must go sale" not much left by the time U got there but I did manage to pick up some bargains for a give-away price.

10 4x5 film hangers, a linear polarizer, original square lenshood for 65mm Mamiya-Sekor lens, pack of Dupont Defender Arrow Pan (expired in January 1948), a pack of Kodak Super Panchro Press (expired in August 1954) and a Super-XX Film Pack (expired in February 1952) and a mint condition Polariod 110A with a 127mm f/4.5 Wollensak Raptar lens all for $10.00 - quite sad really.

Mike

Curt · Dec 20, 2006

While not in my neighborhood even I have heard of Reeds Camera in Walnut Creek. Too bad.

Alex Bishop-Thorpe · Dec 20, 2006

I was reading an article about Defender Arrow Pan in an old textbook a few days ago, strange. But very sad to see another store go, and clearly quite a good one as well. I'm lucky to have several in my nearest city.

copake_ham · Dec 20, 2006

So was this posted to cheer us up during the holiday season?

Jeez, Louise, what is the purpose for posting this stuff anyway?

MikeK · Dec 21, 2006

copake_ham said:
So was this posted to cheer us up during the holiday season?

Jeez, Louise, what is the purpose for posting this stuff anyway?

I made the announcement because in the East Bay (SFBay Area) this was the nearest full service camera store for miles. Many students purchase their supplies at this store and hopefully this will prevent many wasted journies.

After all the Forum is Product Availability - albeit no more

Happy Holidays

Mike

BrianShaw · Dec 21, 2006

Very sad news... very sad, indeed.

galyons · Dec 21, 2006

I'll take the contrarian's view on this one! We lost nothing here. Reed's long ago abandoned photography. My best guess is that they have had less than 10% of the available retail space offering products related to analog for several years now.

They were trying to slosh it out with all of the mass pixelography distribution channels and lost. They were trying to sell mass market digi-stuff at high mark-up. Really quite predictable. Their greatest asset was non-photographic, retail frontage in one of the Bay areas hottest retail areas. They should have leased the building to another type of retailer, downsized and relocated ages ago.

The Looking Glass has been the area's "go to" photo retailer for a long time now!

Cheers,
Geary

copake_ham · Dec 21, 2006

galyons said:
I'll take the contrarian's view on this one! We lost nothing here. Reed's long ago abandoned photography. My best guess is that they have had less than 10% of the available retail space offering products related to analog for several years now.

They were trying to slosh it out with all of the mass pixelography distribution channels and lost. They were trying to sell mass market digi-stuff at high mark-up. Really quite predictable. Their greatest asset was non-photographic, retail frontage in one of the Bay areas hottest retail areas. They should have leased the building to another type of retailer, downsized and relocated ages ago.

The Looking Glass has been the areas's "go to" photo retailer for a long time now!

Cheers,
Geary

Thank you.

My earlier point was simply that these kinds of threads offer nothing not already known to those who need to know - and are just a "downer".

This is a global website and the demise of a particular photog store in one location is irrelevant to the vast majority of us. As noted, poor marketing, mistaken strategy of trying to compete with the "box stores" on digis etc. explains much. Competing uses for valuable urban shopping space explains the rest!

ineffablething · Dec 21, 2006

Uuummm, actually, I didn't know and I was going to head over there this weekend for supplies. So, I am happy for the heads up.

IT

Uncle Bill · Dec 25, 2006

I am fortunate to live in an area with a couple of healthy photo retailers. I remember Travis from Richmond VA commenting at the APUG conference he could not believe how much darkroom/film related goodies were available in Toronto. Even then the retailers are stuck catering to a digital world wether they like it or not.

If I was not going into public relations (and enjoying it) and I had the bankroll, I would set up a store like Blue Moon Camera out of Portland Or. in Toronto. Realize you are niche and play up to it, put together a big online presence, with website and social media (like APUG, RFF, Flickr, etc.) and participate in the local arts scene. I know for a fact the margins have to be better than selling Nikon D80's.

Changeling1 · Jan 1, 2007

Arrrrggg!!!!!

copake_ham said:
So was this posted to cheer us up during the holiday season?

Jeez, Louise, what is the purpose for posting this stuff anyway?

Only one thing to say....

bill schwab · Mar 13, 2007

Yet Another... *sigh*

My Wife (she wrote the story) just informed me of the demise of Century Camera in Royal Oak, Michigan. One of the last few places from the golden photographic years here in the Detroit area. I remember shooters stacked at the counters waiting for service. You even used to have to take a number. Ahh..... ch-ch-ch-cha- changes.... only 2 to go. Heading out to "pick the bones" tomorrow.

Bill

dmr · Mar 14, 2007

On a positive note, Rockbrook Camera, the area's only surviving independent camera shop, has just recently opened up a SECOND branch in Omaha, making a total of three shops in the Omaha-Lincoln (Nebraska, US) area.

Yeah, yeah, they do stock a lot of {d-word} stuff, but they do have a good selection of yellow and green box film. (I just wish they were more competitive on the common Fuji films, as I would rather buy from a place like that than Wally World.)

Lopaka · Mar 14, 2007

billschwab said:
My Wife (she wrote the story) just informed me of the demise of Century Camera in Royal Oak, Michigan. One of the last few places from the golden photographic years here in the Detroit area. I remember shooters stacked at the counters waiting for service. You even used to have to take a number. Ahh..... ch-ch-ch-cha- changes.... only 2 to go. Heading out to "pick the bones" tomorrow.

Bill

I stopped by there yesterday, Bill. There doesn't seem to be a lot of bones left to pick. In recent times, their strengh was in the lighting equipment and its going fast. There still seems to be a selection of aftermarket lenses for 35mm and some cases.

Bob

bill schwab · Mar 14, 2007

Lopaka said:
I stopped by there yesterday, Bill. There doesn't seem to be a lot of bones left to pick.

Thanks Bob... I'll give it a shot anyway just to make one last trip.

Bill

jstraw · Mar 14, 2007

dmr said:
On a positive note, Rockbrook Camera, the area's only surviving independent camera shop, has just recently opened up a SECOND branch in Omaha, making a total of three shops in the Omaha-Lincoln (Nebraska, US) area.

Yeah, yeah, they do stock a lot of {d-word} stuff, but they do have a good selection of yellow and green box film. (I just wish they were more competitive on the common Fuji films, as I would rather buy from a place like that than Wally World.)

Jeez, and Dean's couldn't keep one store open...I remember when they had a great old store downtown.

Leonard Peterson · Mar 14, 2007

Well, we all bemoan the passing of these stores. But do any of us give all, and I mean all, of our business to the local shops? How often do we just go in to browse. Or play with a new lens or camera and then go on ebay or order from B&H. Here's a reason Calumet is going digital. Don't kid yourselves, Calumet will be out of the film business before long. When was the last time anyone bought equipment new when it's available on eBay for so much less money? I worked in our local camera store in the mid 80's and saw this happen even then. People would come in to ask questions and get advice and then order from the New York discount stores in Popular Photography or from the ads in Shutterbug. We're now getting what we created.

dmr · Mar 14, 2007

jstraw said:
Jeez, and Dean's couldn't keep one store open...I remember when they had a great old store downtown.

The Deans I remember was out at about 114th and Dodge, and closed a couple years ago. One version I heard was that the construction in the area was bad for business, but another story was that nobody wanted to continue running the business so they liquidated and closed.

Mackinaw · Mar 17, 2007

billschwab said:
......the demise of Century Camera in Royal Oak, Michigan. One of the last few places from the golden photographic years here in the Detroit area.

I didn't know this. Truly a pity. I used to frequent this store back in the 70s, while going to college.

I fear for Adray Photo in Dearborn too. While they still have a decent selection of darkroom stuff, film, etc. I can imagine they're also feeling the effects of the internet. On the plus side, you can still buy medium format gear there (at truly low prices) as well as Leica 35mm gear. I hope they make it, the Detroit area needs at least one fully-equipped photo store.

Jim Bielecki

bill schwab · Mar 17, 2007

Leonard Peterson said:
But do any of us give all, and I mean all, of our business to the local shops? How often do we just go in to browse. Or play with a new lens or camera and then go on ebay or order from B&H.

I can only speak for myself and say yes. My local camera shop is Adray in Dearborn. I have been going there for many years... and actually worked in the camera department from 1977-78. They have been very good to me, give me a very good discount and make it worth my time and money to go there. I do this because I want them to stay open. Nothing pisses me off more than people that use local retailers for information only to spend their money online somewhere else when ready to buy. Don't get me wrong though. I do go online for all the things I cannot get locally, but if they have it here, I will go there first.

Leonard Peterson said:
Don't kid yourselves, Calumet will be out of the film business before long.

Actually I think it is you who are kidding yourself. As long as there is film, which will be for a very long time to come, Calumet will be carrying it. I have seen enough positive statistics about film lately, particularly black and white, to calm any fear it is going away soon. Have you looked at any statistics on Digital sales as of late? You should. They are way down from last year alone. It is photography that is dying and not just film.

Bill

bill schwab · Mar 17, 2007

Mackinaw said:
I fear for Adray Photo in Dearborn too. While they still have a decent selection of darkroom stuff, film, etc. I can imagine they're also feeling the effects of the internet.

Hi Jim,

I talk to them several times a week there and they are doing OK and have placed themselves in a position where they will most likely be the last man standing and be the catch-all for the area. I would most worry about them due to digital sales and not film. Their darkroom is still fairly strong from students. Sales of digital gear is way off I am told.

Bill

Randy Stewart · Apr 1, 2007

Uncle Bill said:
If I was not going into public relations (and enjoying it) and I had the bankroll, I would set up a store like Blue Moon Camera out of Portland Or. in Toronto. Realize you are niche and play up to it, put together a big online presence, with website and social media (like APUG, RFF, Flickr, etc.) and participate in the local arts scene. I know for a fact the margins have to be better than selling Nikon D80's.

So, there are two us who have heard of Blue Moon Camera in Portland. I was in there a few weeks to pick up an ebay purchased item. Looks the same, meaning that it looks like it could fold up at any time, but it just keeps plugging along in a low rent neighborhood, well off the main drag, with an inventory of whatever used stuff they have found, paying the rent with film/paper sales and processing. Really nice people making it work in a truely niche market. And they have pretty cool, if odd, items on their ebay site.

A place to support if they have something you can use.

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