Ray Morgenweck
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Disposable cameras are like this, but they have fewer exposures in them. In the past, the bodies were reused with new film loaded.
Why is it in the Industry News. Post here if it will happen.
But most likely it never will. Interest among young ones is grossly overestimated at forums. I see what it is in real in Toronto. Fourth largest city in NA. Just one spot left where you could see not just one person buying, developing film.
Any way, young ones are taken with Instax.
I was just there. I even did a paid shoot in Alex Muir's garden. Lot's o' film shooters takin' them there film photos of the fancy leaves.
"Just where" was yesterday. Halloween with rain and big branches falling wind.
I didn't even bother to use film. Way too dark.
I'm in Toronto every day, Monday to Friday. I see very few with film cameras on the streets and only once in a while. Digital is totally dominant. The Henry's store in downtown crapped out, I used to buy film supplies from them. Now it is just Downtown Camera and dusty corner at the back of the Aden camera (they have film supplies covered in tacky dust, but I have seen one person buying C-41 film). Once you go from to Toronto to nearby suburbs, where my house is, film is next to none. Burlington camera is the last store were film is dominant from cameras to enlargers, but I never seen it crowded.
I like that Ilford offer their B&W "single use" camera with processing if you want it. Kodak could certainly facilitate processing of a single use camera system , and increasing the number of exposures might be useful but difficult. Has anyone ever marketed a medium format single use camera?
Issue is this, if anyone thinks we're going back to the old days of football field size emulsions being rolled out daily you're looking at it the wrong way.
Hi Ray !
I've been saying the same exact thing for about 15 years, would be great, wouldn't it ?
The problem is they dismantled their processing division. BUT still, it sounds like a great thing for
New Kodak™ you know someone who will sell the cameras and film and process/print the 100 image rolls..
Too bad people don't have the patience to wait a month or 2 to get the images and camera mailed back to them.
There is this guy in New Hampshire coating and selling Dry Plates like it is 1883. I think sometime, no clue when, he will be reinventing ortho roll film, so it is almost a matter of time before someone buys a bunch of Morrocan Leather, buys 1000 glass flits from Anchor Optical, makes balsa wood/bass wood roll cameras and fits them with JLane Ortho Roll Film
and sells the film and camera and processing altogether like it was 1886. Football grain doesn't really matter when the images are contact printedand scans are sent along with the prints, you know sized to 2x2 72dpi . Its not that far from reality, and just gimmicky enough that everyone and their cousin will be interested. I have a high wheel ( penny farthing ). a bowler hat and live by candlelight.
As AgX has said, the "film revival" or at least film usage varies geographically. Most days I venture into central London I see people with film cameras. Around my town of Luton I know my local camera shop is doing well and I do see people around the town (which isn't very photogenic) shooting film.. Possibly students...the university still does film but a local college is giving up their film darkroom.
I visited Oxford a year ago and exchanged knowing winks with a young woman who can have been no older than 21 who had a Hasselblad over her shoulder accompanying the Instax around her neck....she was admiring my Kiev 6....When I talk to staff at my local camera shop they do tell me that it's people under 30 who are coming in, asking to buy film cameras and film for the first time, while others have dusted off a parent's old camera and want a battery and film to try it.....most do come back for more - hence they ran out of Color Plus and 400H film this summer. When I visited Cardiff a few months ago I was the oldest person in the camera shop there...the kind of place that prides itself on offering "every film on sale", a great range of used film cameras and no fewer than four "Bargain buckets". At 46 I was quite easily the oldest person in that shop including the staff - with whom I had a knowledgeable and lengthy conversation about TLRs and 6x6 folding cameras.
Whether Kodak offering something like OP suggests would be good, is debatable. I like that Ilford offer their B&W "single use" camera with processing if you want it. Kodak could certainly facilitate processing of a single use camera system , and increasing the number of exposures might be useful but difficult. Has anyone ever marketed a medium format single use camera? That might be different, and interesting....might get young people into 120 film. I've helped three people in their 30s get into medium format by lending them a box camera already loaded, then they move onto a TLR or 6x6 of some description once they have some confidence loading the film.
I'll tell you how it is with them youngsters.
They're not old enough to remember the inconvenience of film.
Such type of camera is ubiquitous at fleamarkets and thrift stores over here. The only advantage of such Harman camera would be to get such off the shelf from a camera store.the announced "Harman" camera is a step in the direction for item 1. a re-loadable analogue of a single use camera.
IDK plenty of "oldsters" are impatient, and they are old enough to remember the inconvenence of film
i'm not that old, but then again don't really see much of it as an inconvenience but i can see where you are coming from. (i pull a winograd and sometimes develop film once every 5 or 6 months). maybe i have been inoculated with silver halide so i don't mind the wait ? one of my fondest memories is photographing my kids with their friends when they were 5 and under and after i snapped the roller blind shutter in the graflex D they came up to me and asked to see the snapshot. my kids laughed and said "its in the box" ... immediate is good, but i think sometimes its over rated.
Like so much in our world, it is the era of craftsmanship and hand-made things that the younger generation seem to yearn for.
Even a cursory glance at YouTube will show the preponderance of millennials interested in analog photography, and local camera clubs, shows, and shops will confirm that. if there is sufficient demand for films, development, and gear renewals, it will come from them, maybe not as a mass industry, but rather as an artisanal specialty.
i'm okay with that - the kids are a'right.
Andy
This would be fun, but the current relatively high cost of shipping would probably doom it to failure.
I just wish Canada Post could be persuaded to bring back the favourable rate for shipping films for processing. As it is, we have to pay parcel rates, because films are thicker than envelopes.
Such type of camera is ubiquitous at fleamarkets and thrift stores over here. The only advantage of such Harman camera would be to get such off the shelf from a camera store.
Where camera stores still exist...
... conveniently sold in b&m stores, and preloaded with ColorPlus.
. That these stores not already offer such, means that they do not see a market for such.
Part of the problem is that what might work in the UK, clearly wouldn't work in the USA or possibly other areas. The gaps in the market and even the way films are used seems to vary a lot geographically. Single use film cameras still have a niche here in the UK, I see the Ilford B&W ones quite frequently in shops (especially Boots [drugstore chain]) and colour ones occasionally.
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