An Ebayer to watch

Donald Miller · Nov 14, 2006

The following Ebay seller is someone to watch. I bought five lens boards for my camera and sent payment via Postal Money Order. The lens boards were not shipped and when I questioned him he responded with the vilest most vulgar email that I have ever received.

Oaklanlenscom.

The sellers <name removed by jd callow> located in Auburn Hills Mi. 48336.

Deal with this person only at your own peril.

glennfromwy · Nov 14, 2006

I just received a 77mm filter from him, after a bit of emailing and a month of waiting.

roteague · Nov 14, 2006

Hmmm.... Postal Money Order. That makes it a postal offense - big problem for him. Time to get the Postmaster involved.

JLP · Nov 14, 2006

Thanks for posting this Donald..

jan

paul ewins · Nov 15, 2006

That's a worry, I'm waiting for a yellow Aero-Ektar filter from him. It was only $15, but I want the filter! As it is coming via regular mail I've got no real recourse if it doesn't show.

FrankB · Nov 15, 2006

Paul,

If you paid by credit card then try contacting your provider. I'm doing this with Mastercard over a "goods not turning up" situation with another vendor; early days, but they're assuring me I'll get my money back.

(Hope your filter turns up, though!)

Best regards,

Frank

Dan Henderson · Nov 15, 2006

hey, we have quite a few members in the Detroit area, maybe they can form a posse and go give that guy an attitude adjustment for Donald!

noseoil · Nov 15, 2006

Donald, Robert is correct. Since you used a postal money order, it has become a federal issue. Contact your local postal inspector and start the ball rolling. It might take a while, but the feds are always slow and thorough. If it is a simple case of fraud, you can have a large piece of his a$$ for fun and he will wish he had never been rude or greedy. Sorry to hear about the problem. Chin up buddy. tim

Michael W · Nov 15, 2006

There are some creeps selling on ebay who try to get away with not sending stuff in the hope that the buyer will do nothing. However there are some things you can do to make life difficult for him.
I had a situation once where a guy in America wouldn't send something to me in Australia. I found that ebay isn't really set up to protect the buyer & they don't make it easy, I had to search around a lot, but finally I discovered some form they have where you can report someone as a "non conforming seller". After I did this a few days later he suddenly decided to send me the 45 after all.
So I suggest you do this as well as the postal thing.

bill schwab · Nov 15, 2006

FirePhoto said:
hey, we have quite a few members in the Detroit area...

Want me to pay him a "visit"?

B.

Donald Miller · Nov 15, 2006

I found out from some folks on LF Forum who have had prior dealings with him that he is not a reputable person. I am trying to get Ebay involved and will contact the postal people. He is pretty mentally imbalanced from what he writes in his emails...both to me and to others.

To top it off his boards do not fit from what others have said.

Anyone have a source for Wisner boards other than Richard Ritter? Not that I have a problem with R.Ritter. I would llke to have a choice if possible.

rwyoung · Nov 15, 2006

billschwab said:
Want me to pay him a "visit"?

B.

I think you ment to say:

"Youse wants me to pay him a 'visit', boss?"

SteveH · Nov 15, 2006

I'll be back in Detroit next month...Ain't nothing I can't fix. Besides. I'll still have my badge and gun 'till January 26th...

TheFlyingCamera · Nov 15, 2006

Good lord, we've turned into the APUG Mafia??
So who's Tony Soprano around here then? Sean?

Amund · Nov 15, 2006

Damn, I must be I lucky. I got a lensboard from him a few weeks back... And it fits the camera.Looks rough, but does what it`s supposed to do.

Terence · Nov 15, 2006

I have an order for three boards in with him now. I guess I'll see how it goes. I paid through Paypal via credit card, so I'll be keeping a sharp on the calendar.

Thanks for the warning. Sounded too good to be true, but who knows, it could work out fine, right [said while get on knees and clasping hands]?

Anyone know anyone who comes even close in price? I've gotten a bit tired of my tempered hardboard ghetto boards on my nice old cameras, and don't have the room or patience to start making my own nice ones.

Bromo33333 · Nov 15, 2006

TheFlyingCamera said:
Good lord, we've turned into the APUG Mafia??
So who's Tony Soprano around here then? Sean?

APUG mafia in action:
"Vinnie and me, we don't wants to hurt you, we just wants to take yer picture."

"Hey! That's a Leica youse just mishandled. Don't make me take a picture of you with my Holga!"

kb244 · Nov 15, 2006

Bromo33333 said:
APUG mafia in action:
"Vinnie and me, we don't wants to hurt you, we just wants to take yer picture."

"Hey! That's a Leica youse just mishandled. Don't make me take a picture of you with my Holga!"

Do we rob banks with 12 gauge 4x5 speed graflexs?

roteague · Nov 15, 2006

I hope it works out for you Donald. It isn't the money, but the principle of the thing.

kb244 · Nov 15, 2006

I read the guys entire feedback history ( % wise he doesn't have that many negatives )

The guy does not seem like someone to intentionally scam someone, but rather has two major flaws for a seller.

1) Prompt shipping or shipping pratices (either forgets to ship, or procrastinates and so forth)
2) Poor communication skills, based on feedback even positive ones, communications is lacking either in response time, or even in acknowledgement.

Also judging on feedback, does not handle criticism well, usually if someone complains bout an item not as described, the most common retort is "high maintanance buyer"

Dave Parker · Nov 15, 2006

kb244 said:
Also judging on feedback, does not handle criticism well, usually if someone complains bout an item not as described, the most common retort is "high maintanance buyer"

I have to say, I have ran into some "High Maintenance Sellers" over the years as well!

LOL

Dave

kb244 · Nov 15, 2006

roteague said:
Hmmm.... Postal Money Order. That makes it a postal offense - big problem for him. Time to get the Postmaster involved.

Actually not, a postal money order is like most other money orders, its money tied into an order to the addressee. As such the money was still intended to get to the seller, and for the seller to even cash the money order would not be a federal offense.

However if he does cash the money order, it allows for the buyer a record that the seller did indeed take money for the said item, which can be used in a civil claim that the item paid for needs to get to the buyer.

roteague · Nov 15, 2006

kb244 said:
Actually not, a postal money order is like most other money orders, its money tied into an order to the addressee. As such the money was still intended to get to the seller, and for the seller to even cash the money order would not be a federal offense.

However if he does cash the money order, it allows for the buyer a record that the seller did indeed take money for the said item, which can be used in a civil claim that the item paid for needs to get to the buyer.

Yes, however since he paid by money order that means he probably sent it via US mail as well - that is more than enough to get the postal inspector involved. I've followed this route myself, and I know it works.

Dave Parker · Nov 15, 2006

Actually Karl,

The postal inspector will investigate a non-delivery on a purchase paid for with a USPS money order as a case of mail fraud, I have had to start a couple of these investigations in the past year and they are very quick in getting things solved, just the threat of USPS fraud often times will get the seller to clean his/her act up...

Dave

roteague · Nov 15, 2006

Dave Parker said:
Actually Karl,

The postal inspector will investigate a non-delivery on a purchase paid for with a USPS money order as a case of mail fraud, I have had to start a couple of these investigations in the past year and they are very quick in getting things solved, just the threat of USPS fraud often times will get the seller to clean his/her act up...

Dave

Yes, I've had a seller purchase an item at retail for me after I made a complaint to the Post Office - even after he had applied for personal bankruptcy.

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