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Marc Charvet

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Hello,
I could only find (in the European Union) the powder form of ammonium thiosulphate. The formula for TF3 fixer specifies a 60% ammonium thiosulphate solution. How can I obtain this solution using ammonium thiosulphate powder ?
 

mshchem

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Are you sure you have access to powder ammonium thiosulfate? Unusual to find in this form, very hygroscopic.
Easiest way to get a solution is buy plain rapid fixer from Ilford, Kodak etc.

Determine the specific gravity.
 

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First the answer to your question. The 60% must weight/volume. So, 600g of Amm.thio. for 1000cm3 final volume. Adding powder to a liquid increases the volume, less than one might anticipate, but 60%, is a lot. So start with less than the final volume (800cm3? 600?) dissolve the powder (probably need to heat) and adjust total volume.

Now what you did not ask.
1 - 60% amm. thio. is used as a fertilizer. Minimum order 1000 litre, but more commonly sold as a complete truckload. That is in France. Elsewhere might be different. Or you are lucky to live next to a farm that is willing to re-sell you a few litres.
2 - Making your own fixer is not economically viable (even if your time spent is "free") when comparing with "amateur" products (Ilford, Foma, Adox) and a clear loss comparing with fixer for C-41, which is just the same, but different market. The best deal I found:
From the recommended dilution and replenishent rates, I infer that for 25€ you have the equivalent of 4 litres of concentrated rapid fixer (Ilford, etc).
3 - As concerns the need for an alkaline fixer, see:
 

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The dry form of ammonium thiosulfate is usually expensive, and for a 60% solution you need about 800 grams of the anhydrous form to make 1 liter of 60% w/w. You can get a ready-made concentrate from Mr. Suvatlar in Germany. I bought a 5-liter canister from him (it's quite heavy) and I'm satisfied.
 
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