Alternative color printing process

[pkr1979]

Hi all,

Are there any other color printing processes (contact printing dependent like silver chloride paper preferably) apart from RA4 and Ciba that does not require separation negatives like dye transfer, gum and carbon does?

Cheers
Peter

 

[koraks]

Nope. Not to the best of my knowledge. And certainly not in the sense of being able to produce natural colors and a (more or less) complete gamut.

 

[BMbikerider]

Nope. Not to the best of my knowledge. And certainly not in the sense of being able to produce natural colors and a (more or less) complete gamut.

There was a system/technique that was used many many years ago, almost certainly pre-war, possibly even the 1914-18 war where you took an image and using three colour filters somehow reproduced a colour image. How it actually worked, I just cannot remember now but I have seen examples which were very nice, the colours were 'not in your face' so to speak, but were muted, but at the same time appeared natural.

I have just had a quick look on Wikipedia and if you search on 'Early 3 colour printing processes' I found a section that does to some extent explain how it was done.

 

[koraks]

I'm not sure which process(es) you're referring to, but it sounds like something involving separations to me.

 

[pkr1979]

Nope. Not to the best of my knowledge. And certainly not in the sense of being able to produce natural colors and a (more or less) complete gamut.

Thanks - I suspected that would be the case.

 

[nmp]

Wouldn't color carbro qualify for OP's requirement?

:Niranjan.

 

[koraks]

Wouldn't color carbro qualify for OP's requirement?

:Niranjan.

Requires separation negs.

 

[nmp]

Requires separation negs.

Can you not put a color negative in the enlarger and using suitable filters, make bromide prints - one for each color. Those will be separation positives.

:Niranjan.

 

[ic-racer]

Hi all,

Are there any other color printing processes (contact printing dependent like silver chloride paper preferably) apart from RA4 and Ciba that does not require separation negatives like dye transfer, gum and carbon does?

Cheers
Peter

A number of threads on Autochrome and or other color/screen systems previously.

 

[MattKing]

Polaroid?

 

[pkr1979]

Polaroid?

I've never tried Polaroid (in any format really). This is a good suggestion and I'll give it ago with my 8x10. I assume the prints will be the wrong way? Also, is today's Polaroids the same thing as the ones from back in the day?

 

[pkr1979]

Im reading this: https://support.polaroid.com/hc/en-...ngs-you-should-know-about-8x10-Polaroid-film-

And it says:
'Bear in mind images are mirrored
In most cases the images obtained with this film will be the mirror image of the original. For example the text will be reversed. If readable text is important to your image, we recommend trying to shoot via a mirror or using an image transparency or image lifting technique to revert the image to its original orientation.'

What is meant by: 'using an image transparency or image lifting technique to revert the image to its original orientation'?

 

[nmp]

Im reading this: https://support.polaroid.com/hc/en-...ngs-you-should-know-about-8x10-Polaroid-film-

And it says:
'Bear in mind images are mirrored
In most cases the images obtained with this film will be the mirror image of the original. For example the text will be reversed. If readable text is important to your image, we recommend trying to shoot via a mirror or using an image transparency or image lifting technique to revert the image to its original orientation.'

What is meant by: 'using an image transparency or image lifting technique to revert the image to its original orientation'?

Polaroid emulsion lifting is when you dip the photo in water which de-laminates the emulsion from the the backing and then transfer the emulsion to a different support. By flipping it before laying it on the new surface, you can presumably make it right side up. Lots of info on the net showing how to do it.

:Niranjan.

P.S. Those 8x10 Polaroids are almost $20 a pop. Are you sure you want to do this?

 

[pkr1979]

P.S. Those 8x10 Polaroids are almost $20 a pop. Are you sure you want to do this?

Nope - probably better to do as intended.