ALAS... found a BEAUTIFUL paper/dev combo...

[Tom Hoskinson]

You can also try throwing 10-11 grams of glycin into ID-62, and get something akin to a cooler toned Ansco 130, that gives results very similar to BW-65 but lasts forever like Ansco 130. I use several variations of this basic idea for Forte PW, and love it.

Ilford ID-62

Water (at 125F) 750.0 ml
Sodium Sulfite (anhydrous) 50.0 grams
Hydroquinone 12.0 grams
Sodium Carbonate (anhydrous) 60.0 grams
Phenidone 0.5 grams
Potassium Bromide 2.0 grams
Benzotriazole 0.2 grams
Water to make 1.0 liter

Dilute 1:2 for use.




Wayne

Wayne, of course, Ilford ID-78 is a derivative of Ilford ID-62. For a blue-Black tone, add up to 0.2 gram of Benzotriazole to the stock solution. For a warmer result, increase the amount of Potassium Bromide (it can be increased up to 10-12 grams per liter of stock solution).

For a concentrated version of Ilford ID-62, see Ilford Universal Concentrated Liquid Developer:

(there was a url link here which no longer exists)

The same comments about tone, Bromide and Benzotriazole apply to both Ilford Universal Concentrated Liquid Developer and ID-62.

Ilford Universal Concentrated Liquid Developer was my favorite paper developer up until the time that I began LF contact printing with my current Azo/Amidol combination.

 

[James Glaze]

Bobby: I have found the Forte Polywarmtone to vary from box to box and even within a box. I have achieved results from spectacular to terrible. When it is good it is very very good but when it is bad...... In spite of that I am going to stick with it for awhile anyway as I understand Forte is trying to improve their quality control. The best results I get is when the untoned print has a slight olive cast. With about 1 minute of toning in selenium at 68 degrees at 1:10 the olive cast is removed an replaced by a plesant warm tone.

 

[bobbysandstrom]

I hear ya Jim!

 

[PeterB]

What did the Forte PG look like in Neutol +? It interesting that you preferred the WA, which in my experience (not on PG though) increases the green considerably over Neutol+, then used selenium to get rid of it.

Wayne

Hi Bobby,
I too am interested in your answer to Wayne's question.

regards
Peter

 

[Jersey Vic]

After my Agfa 118 disappeared, I spoke to an exhibition printer I know and she recommended polygrade V (also available from Freestyle as Arista.edu 'from Hungary") and to develop it in Ethol LPD 1:9 (for the liquid; 1:4.5 for the powder) for 5 minutes- Clean hightlights, subtle gradation in the midtones, solid blacks with no color cast.
I love it-Great great stuff.