AGFACOLOR neg paper 1970 ...stable

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jtk

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Have any of you printed the wonderful 1970s Agfacolor? How do your prints look today?

cc1970, the year my son was born, I photographed a young woman and her younger sister, both wearing brilliantly colored ponchos woven by my then wife. The women are Japanese, the ponchos are almost entirely red and almost entirely purple, intensely dyed Swedish wool.

Graflex XL, C22 Kodak 120 film in Graflex 6X7 back. Tray processed in my home darkroom using Agfa's small volume kit chemistry, having exposed with Kodak gelatin filters in my Durst 609 (was designed to use 6X9 film).

I had friends who were very good printers..my craft was OK. We loved Agfacolor paper because the color could be far more intense than Ektacolor's and far more accurate than Ciba's.

Sadly, Agfacolor was also famous for rapid decay after printing...several years of acceptable color were the best anybody but my friends expected. Ektacolor wasn't very stable, but Agfacolor was worse...if processed per Agfa's instructions.

However my friends believed a last soak with extra formaldyhide (as I recall, the last step involved formaldyhide) would help Agfacolor last longer.

I still have that 1970 print..it remains beautiful after 48 years . Clear, lovely asian skin, Black black hair with faint reddish hair highlights, perfectly accurate ponchos, shaded blue-gray stone background. Fully deliverable by any standard. The only sign of age is faint yellowing of the white border.
 
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Is there any chance you could post a photo of the print here or a link, please ?
 
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Is there any chance you could post a photo of the print here or a link, please ?

There's "a chance" ... have not posted here before so that's a question...I'll try. My impression is that Photrio does a bad job displaying some images...but perhaps that's only the muddy-looking B&W stuff.

My hope is to learn if others have had good success with Agfacolor...or have even tried :smile:
 

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Well I look forward to see the print if you do get it uploaded.

I remember that Agfa had process 85 for their paper in the 1970's until they changed to Ektaprint process (EP2 Kodak process) in the early 1980's

I also remember that the Agfa type 4 prints had a bad habit of fading and that most look now like a muddy brown colour. And that is my reason for seeing your photo.
 
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Well I look forward to see the print if you do get it uploaded.

I remember that Agfa had process 85 for their paper in the 1970's until they changed to Ektaprint process (EP2 Kodak process) in the early 1980's

I also remember that the Agfa type 4 prints had a bad habit of fading and that most look now like a muddy brown colour. And that is my reason for seeing your photo.


Thanks for responding with your experience.... fading and muddy was certainly whad killed Agfacolor in the 70s market, but my print is still very fine. Some of my Ektacolor prints from the late 80s (large prints that were dry mounted) have faded significantly but this Agfacolor print has not faded at alll and appears not to have even shifted.
 
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