The original Agfa Precisa has the red diamond with Agfa in white letters. The next Precisa was by Agfaphoto with the large red dot. The first generation was made by Ferrania and the box had a yellow boat in the film strip on it, (2005 to 2010 approx). The second generation was made by Fuji and had multi coloured beach huts in the film strip on it (2010 to 2018 approx).
So I would think that the Ferrania Precisa is the same as Solaris Chrome, and Fuji Precisa is the same as Fujichrome Provia.
So occasionally i stumble on some agfa slide film that has mid-2000s expiration dates. Since i have never shot any of it and would like to try, i wonder how well they age with time... more specifically RSX/RSXII and the original precisa (not the rebranded fuji).
I know in the end i will have to actually give it a try, but have any of you some idea or gotten actual results to form an opinion on how well they age?
For example, i have shot at box speed fuji sensia 100 expired since 2004/2005 and it came out perfect.
I live in Virginia but am in California for the moment, so can’t open my freezer to check all details — but I shot some of my stash of frozen RSX (or RSX II?) 120 slide film a few months back and had it processed at Dodge Chrome labs in McLean/Silver Spring. It came out just fine, with no apparent loss of speed. Colors were all true. This film is at least 12 years old, but you wouldn’t know it by the results. I’ve always kept it in a freezer, and it’s likely the fellow I bought it from did too. I’d post a scan if I could...
All Agfa slide film that I have used has yellowed as it aged after processing.
I am talking about fresh film processed immediately.
The colour dyes seem to develop a yellow orange cast to the film as the time passes following development
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No, all my agfa film has yellowed over the years after processing.You mean expired ffilm right?
With fresh Film it wasn't the issue on Agfa from my experience.
With regards
RSX II is the worst case I ever remember from expiration dates. Yes theese films came extreme cheep
(1,50 - 2,- bucks) with short expiration dates in 120. But I can say most of that stuff had Bad colors just with 8 month after expiration. You may see the same yellow cast as with E6 daylight in 3200 Kelvin thungsten location.
From my point this is a very very special issue with Agfa chromes. If you for example remember the extreme high priced Agfa professional cromes (in that silver package wich was new at the late 70th).Agfa Avichrome had the emulsion-formula that was used in the RSXII from the 90s. And indeed at some rebranded films (Rollei Chrome CR 200) there was reported a yellow hue.
You are right juan I made same experience as you mentioned. But here (from the aproach of the OP) it doesn't go about long therm stabile colors (there it is indeed like you stated) here it goes about color shifting at the first day you have a LOOK on your slides when you got them back from lab.I shot Agfachrome, Ektachrome and Kodachrome back in the 80s. Kodachrome is still perfect, Ektachrome is faded but recoverable with Photoshop, Agfachrome is faded to almost being colorless and what color is there has shifted. I’m able to recover only some of my Agfachrome images in Photoshop.
Some experts of storage media (archivist) discussed this a time ago. An universal validity between such experts is the conclusion of an inability to archive ANY COLOR MATERIAL !I used the Wittner flavor of Agfa Avichrome, and nearing the expiry date they all started to get more and more yellow. I wonder if long expired film would yield any colors at all.
If you freeze fresh film with expiration dates of nearly 2 years (color) or 3 years (bw) at around 0 degreeF better should be -11F (I can't say what is indeed better but 0F / - 18C cost less energy)I used the Wittner flavor of Agfa Avichrome, and nearing the expiry date they all started to get more and more yellow. I wonder if long expired film would yield any colors at all.
Yes that's what we discussed foreward - the rest is mentioned in addition. By the way some aviphot stuff wich was supplied from Wittner was ok (without yellow cast) the same is with stuff from RolleiTrendland i don't want to sound rude but are you replying to me? I'm not sure I cokpleycom follow your comments...
In any case, I know any color material will fade. In my experience with aviphot, I got very different results coming from the same batch of film and stores in the same way, before expiration. The tendency was a strong fade to yellow.
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