Adox Color Implosion - where are you?

I had more or less given up trying to get my hands on Color Implosion, but I spoke to a retailer (who is currently out of stock, along with every on-line shop I've tried) and was informed they are expecting more in January.

Has Adox seen the light and potential sales from this amazing film and decided to start up production again? I hope so!

Hi Steve
I don't want to bring bad news today, but this product does not show anymore on the Adox website.
Unless there is (or will be) a new product code for it, I would not set my hope too high...

I had never heard of this one. What was Colour Implosion film and in what way was it amazing i.e. what characteristic did it have that others films did not?

Thanks

pentaxuser

AgX said:

http://www.adox.de/Photo/adox-color-implosion-2/

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Thanks I now understand and do not understand if that makes sense.

pentaxuser

My mistake...
Does not show anymore in the Fotoimpex catalog.

As it is sold out. (I just wanted to give a reference to Pentaxuser.)

The actual origin of this film was never revealed.

They screwed up the manufacture and made lemonade out of lemons?

AgX said:

The actual origin of this film was never revealed.

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They screwed up the manufacture and made lemonade out of lemons?

New Adox did not make color films and as far as I know do not intend to do so.

Sad news!
I have a solitary role donated by a kind person from the USA (I'm in the UK) and I'm saving it for the special light.
I'm almost likely to expose it using my Pen F to squeeze every last once, making 72 captures.

Steve@f8 said:

Sad news!
I have a solitary role donated by a kind person from the USA (I'm in the UK) and I'm saving it for the special light.
I'm almost likely to expose it using my Pen F to squeeze every last once, making 72 captures.

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Ounce of course

Hmmm, I thought I saw some of this at a local store about 4 weeks back - BUT could be totally mistaken and it was some other Lomo film. I'll have to have a look next time I'm in the area . . .

How does Adox stay in business? They seem to have THE most limited product line out of any photography company I have ever seen.

They produce several films, papers and chemicals, not exactly a very limited range of products. Apart from that, fotoimpex, a major European photo retailer, is practically owned by the same person as far as I know.

RattyMouse said:

How does Adox stay in business? They seem to have THE most limited product line out of any photography company I have ever seen.

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Whereas all competitors origin from large scale manufuactures, some even once with a full range portfolio, Adox started more or less from zero. First by rebranding, then by tollmanufacture. Just recently they gained access to the full production cycle.

RattyMouse said:

How does Adox stay in business? They seem to have THE most limited product line out of any photography company I have ever seen.

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Crucially they avoid problems with 120 backing paper

pentaxuser

Steve@f8 said:

I had more or less given up trying to get my hands on Color Implosion, but I spoke to a retailer (who is currently out of stock, along with every on-line shop I've tried) and was informed they are expecting more in January.

Has Adox seen the light and potential sales from this amazing film and decided to start up production again? I hope so!

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Steve - Adox Color Explosion is gone !
So there is a question remaing now.
Why is this film not longer avaible ?
Two simple reasons :
1) it was an experimental emulsion with special characteristics - one statement from Adox : " grain like an Iso 800 film other characteristics like an Iso 100 emulsion."
(and I indeed don't want to forget to state : " total special colors ").
So there are more questions about the origin of the film .......hmmm???
I would like to speculate a bit here - if I am alowed - this film was produced in smal scale.
So we have the first possibility of discontinue this film : High demand !
Well - it seams like to be a paradoxum but it shall be sold out.
(don't ask why Adox don't will have a further production run - I can't say)
But before this coming to the 2. reason - it is quite simple :
This was a bad film.......!!!
So it is obviously not a much great lost ?
I think so - and pls. forgive me therefore.
I could easyly imagine of many people who had a real "wow" effect with this film - but after this they don't want to buy it again.
That is just from my logic - so you have seen a first highest demand after this it was just a little group who wanted this film again.
So ADOX decided against a second production run ?
And now ? What is to do - how we can live without a color implosion from Adox?
My friendly advice to you Steve is the following : make your own experiments with "wrong" colors and use simple color films. Here we discussed often how to avoid color shifts. To some experts it is a main issue with color films.Some have real problems from this - they might have
sleepless nights sometimes "broken families" - caused from color shifts in the darkroom !!!!
To reach some incorect colors (as an effect) it is much more easy than to "fight" against .......
So you should try first cross developement. It gives more contrast and a different color look depending from each film emulsion.
TO have "implosion" effects there is also a need of some funky cokin color filters (for example).
You may have different colors with real bad c41 developers (and incorrect workflow).
IF you underexpose your c41 films a bit you may have a little more color saturation for exampel.
You can find a mass of expired films on ebay.
IF you want to have the same expiration effect with new color films to the next years (reproducible results) you may store your simple new color films (use the cheapest ones you can find) during winter onto your heating. Notice the duration of storage (starting tests) - a couple of days should be enough to destroy the original fine characteristics.
A.s.o........
So it is not "photographers armageddon"
without ADOX IMPLOSIONS - isn't it ?

with regards

Well thanks trendland.
I could indeed experiment as I believe Saul Leiter once did - I read somewhere he used out of date expired colour film, possibly heat damned but I'm not sure - but the thing is I use process labs which is limiting to the extent of control over the crucial development stage. I think I'll order some of the cheapest colour film as suggested and try heat destroying a roll see what comes.
I also read somewhere that you can buy film that has been flashed with light to give the light leak effect, without having to distros the camera.
I like the random uncertainty about film. That's the thing for me. Rather than subduing grain I like to make it centre stage, hence a recent acquisition of a Pen f.
Cheers, Steve

Steve@f8 said:

Well thanks trendland.
I could indeed experiment as I believe Saul Leiter once did - I read somewhere he used out of date expired colour film, possibly heat damned but I'm not sure - but the thing is I use process labs which is limiting to the extent of control over the crucial development stage. I think I'll order some of the cheapest colour film as suggested and try heat destroying a roll see what comes.
I also read somewhere that you can buy film that has been flashed with light to give the light leak effect, without having to distros the camera.
I like the random uncertainty about film. That's the thing for me. Rather than subduing grain I like to make it centre stage, hence a recent acquisition of a Pen f.
Cheers, Steve

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So it should be solved

Cheers