There is no hint whatsever that Orwo or Inoviscoat will turn to consumer film (aside of the ongoing tollproductions and the Polaroid project).
Moreover they stated recently that their intention was in a third direction, that of non-cine institutional films, and they meanwhile released a respective product.
Thus there already is some contradiction in their statements.
This is the typical case of some press statement appearing and people jumping to it and making assessments based on just what they wish to happen.
Inoviscoat manufacture several of Lomography's more eccentric colour materials - all of which can also be seen as stepping stones to making more conventional colour materials while being able to sell each experimental step. Add interlayer scavengers etc to Lomography's Metropolis and you'll have a conventional colour neg film.Hmm this remind me of the fact that de production facility not really belongs to Inoviscoat but is shared with "Inovisproject" or so? A seperate company that works for Polaroid. Anyhow interesting what will happen. Will both companies join?
Anyhow, apperently they can make colour / RA4 paper but not film?
On this page http://www.inoviscoat.de/maerkte/photographie/
- Schwarzweißpapiere auf Baryt-Papierträger (Fine Art Kontaktpapiere, Multigradationspapier)
- Schwarzweißpapiere auf PE-Papierträger (Multigradationspapier)
- Colournegativpapier auf PE-Papierträger (Prozess KODAK RA-4 oder Agfa AP94 kompatibel)
Filmotec have no coating facilities, but do have slitting/ packaging ability
Do you know what packaging facility Filmotec have, i.e can they confection 135 cassettes etc?
As I understand it, they do not have the confectioning abilities for anything other than long roll cinema film.
Also Adox already has trouble with restoring their 120 cutter for years.
who?Based on his previous participation I am surprised that on this announcement and several other threads of a similar ilk we have heard nothing from Henning.
pentaxuser
Don't know him.
Don't know him.
I rely only on official statement, not third part "they say"...
however by definition he's "third part"then you’re missing out. Henning knows the film industry as good or better than the companies themselves.
Which gives him contextual knowledge, particularly in light of who he has done work with.however by definition he's "third part"
To me it has no meaning. I trust only official sources, official data, genuine datasheets, what the manufacturer says about their products etc...And most importantly, Henning has more breadth of knowledge than many of the individual participants.
Think of "third" especially in this case, as an advantage. And before going further, look him up here and see what he has to say. He is actually well respected by film producers, so not just anther forum member nor just another who spends some off time to look into what's happening with film. You can certainly think of him as an "official & trusted" data miner.however by definition he's "third part"
To me it has no meaning. I trust only official sources, official data, genuine datasheets, what the manufacturer says about their products etc...
Think about it: it's a contradictio in terminis.The photographic industry has always had a tendency toward secrecy.
Information about things like sales numbers has always been closely guarded and compartmentalized - dealt with as confidential trade/business information.
My father worked as the customer service manager at the Western Canadian Kodak processing laboratory between 1961 and 1983. He had responsibilities for the various systems used to receive customer film for processing and return the processed results to those customers.
Millions of films received - through the mail, from customers walking in the door, film from an extensive pickup and delivery system that provided courier pickup and return of film to an extensive collection of Kodak dealers spread throughout Western Canada.
With all that responsibility, he was never privy to information about the total volume of film processed at the lab. That information was compartmentalized, and closely held as a business secret.
Third parties who are trusted by various players in the industry are in a special position - they are in a much better position to understand industry trends than individual players often are.
Just so we're clear, Henning does a lot of own film testing and follows industry very closely as independent consultant (that's my understanding). No, I have not verified everything he says, nor do I agree with him on a number of issues. But I won't argue his ability to test and share intricate details of his results with everyone who wants to see them. Far more reliable than most web based self-claimed testing houses that know it all and can't even spell it right.Think about it: it's a contradictio in terminis.
If manufacturers held secrects so much jealously (and for a reason), there are also NDAs, how come a guy knows all these "news"?
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