A new set of Beard daguerreotypes

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Facinating; Thanks for bringing to our awareness!
 

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Ah, the Franklin Expedition: "There is little the British love more than the noble failure."

The article states: "....this daguerreotype is the only known original photograph of him in existence."

The arrow of 'progress' points away from originality. An oil painting of someone's mug is an 'original.' A Daguerreotype is a quasi-orignal. A photograph, current analog style, is an 'original negative' that makes as many 'identically original non-original copies' as you would like; add a color offset press and suddenly far, far more copies appear than you could possibly ever like. With digital the whole original concept goes by the wayside. And with generative AI even digital photography gets overtaken when it comes to 'original.'

A lot of folks get sartorially twisted over GAI. I don't - it's just another tool. Instead of generating an internal image of a scene in our heads from a language description of the scene, GAI creates an image of the scene directly and everybody sees the same scene. Hopefully there is some reference to ground truth somewhere, but it seems to be optional. We all have our personal view of reality, why not the AI?. Though I think imagination will always trump GAI. I wonder if anyone if anyone has fed Dante or Revelations into a GAI (I'm sure the answer is yes).

I had the idea in the 80's that something wasn't real until it became virtual. I was working feverishly on a large software project at the time, so yes, that thought was brought forth in a fever dream.

As the world of computing has evolved over my lifetime - and I have gone from being all ga-ga over my first toying with a PDP-8 to being all jaded over AI - the Virtual=Real postulate seems to hold its own.

Que sera, sera (and I hate Doris Day).
 

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This is fascinating.
The Franklin explorers brought their daguerreotype camera with them. Mr Smith says that marine archaeologists are hopeful that images taken during the expedition could be recovered from the device, if it were ever found.
I certainly hope they can recover some of the photography material at some point!

Can anyone point to a documentary or movie about these events?
 

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This is fascinating.

I certainly hope they can recover some of the photography material at some point!

Can anyone point to a documentary or movie about these events?

There are a few documentaries. Recently there was a movie series loosely based on it, mostly fiction, but a good yarn.

 

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'hopeful that images taken during the expedition could be recovered from the device'

... because it's a digital daguerrotype camera, right?
 
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I thought it was interesting that at least one image seemed to be on the deck of the ship, that of Lt Henry Thomas Dundas Le Vesconte. The others seem to have a blanket draped in the background. Daguerreotypes are a one off image on a copper plate surfaced with silver. I assumed that the second set held by the Scott Polar Research Institute would be a set of alternate exposures.
A daguerreotype would only have been copied as a second photograph of the image of the first. As a daguerreotype is laterally reversed each would be reversed images one to another; the copy image being seen as we would take a picture today.
The Illustrated London News (1845)published etchings


seemingly based on a salted paper image, except reversed.

However two images per person were in fact taken and ( I had not known this)
the twin images were a product of Beard’s mirror camera which had a singular feature: the mirror had a pivot, and by turning it the photographer could record two images on a single oblong plate. This gave Beard the opportunity to choose the better of the exposures, or – if both were satisfactory – provide two daguerreotypes and double his profit.
Thus the two sets are each unique.
Here is an example
 
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For interest here is a picture of set of original and copy daguerreotypes
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I am still a bit skeptical about a rotating camera and two shots on one plate. I have never read elsewhere that the Alexander S. Wolcott's mirror camera performed like this and it is generally held that Beard abandoned that camera in 1843.
Still if true I suppose Beard may have hauled it out and used it on location, dockside.
 
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