A little help with pushing HP5+

Rhodes · Oct 31, 2009

Tonight I have a dinner party and I'm thinking of shooting some pictures. My only high iso film in the moment is an HP5+ (all other are iso 100/125).
I am thinking of pushing between 1000-1600 (possibly 1600). But what developer I should use? Right now I have T-Max (a small quantity), Ilfosol 3, Rodinal and Ilford Universal. The last two are rule out, if I not mistaken.
So T-Max or Ilfosol 3?

PS: I know that my choices are not the best for high iso!

jmdco · Oct 31, 2009

Hello Rhodes

I use HP5 for over 20 years, because I like the grain and texture.
I regularly shoot at 3200 ASA with no problem. For this, I use Ilford's recommendations.
400 to 3200 (in 6400) Ilford Microphen stock solution at 20 ° C

Here are some links for you:

Ilford Film Processing Chart - Ilford Website
Fact Sheet Ilford - Ilford Website
DigitalTruthPhoto Dev Chart - HP5 + ASA 6400 Microphen

Good photos and good diner party

Andy K · Oct 31, 2009

I recently shot some outdoor gig shots using HP5+ pushed to 6400. I developed in Microphen at stock solution for 20minutes 30 seconds to keep the grain under control. You can see a few examples here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/adk1962/

Rhodes · Oct 31, 2009

Thanks, but I do not have microphen. What should I use, Ilfosol 3 or T-Max?

sepiareverb · Oct 31, 2009

Microphen is the best by far that I've tried for pushing HP5+ over 800.

WetMogwai · Oct 31, 2009

I've pushed HP5+ to 1600 in Ilfosol successfully. It looked great.

markbarendt · Oct 31, 2009

I'd say you can get there with either. Ilford's HP-5 directions seem to give T-Max the speed nod.

rwboyer · Oct 31, 2009

I have had good results using TMAX developer for pushing films. I have used it quite a bit with TRI-X and TMZ and a few times with HP5+. Of course you could shoot now and order something else but I think your best bet with what you have is TMAX dev.

If I were to buy a developer to push HP5+ it would probably be TMAX but that is just me.

RB

mrred · Oct 31, 2009

Well, I took some inspiration form this and shot some HP5+ at 3200 in 35mm. Not bad I thought. I left it full size for those that want to look.

OM10, 50 F1.8, Olympus Doubler, F4 1/60, Rodinal 1:100 stand inv every 30 min s for 2 hrs.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/peterbcarter/4060395555/

Fireguy2002 · Oct 31, 2009

*insert newb question here*
Why shoot at 3200 instead of 400? I know its a technique, but I don't understand it.

Andy K · Oct 31, 2009

Fireguy2002 said:
*insert newb question here*
Why shoot at 3200 instead of 400? I know its a technique, but I don't understand it.

Because you can use faster shutter speeds in very low light conditions where you can't use a tripod. That is usually my reason anyway.

Fireguy2002 · Oct 31, 2009

Makes sense. Thanks.

mrred · Oct 31, 2009

Fireguy2002 said:
Why shoot at 3200 instead of 400? I know its a technique, but I don't understand it.

Light is what you make of it, and sometimes you have only a little.

Naturally lit images are a world onto their own. Sometimes a flash detracts (like a rock concert).

A big edge in high iso is that it raises the minimum shuter speed to a manageable level.

Rhodes · Oct 31, 2009

I never thought that the thread would had so much posts... ehehheh! I allways thought that rodinal and hp5 "pushed" would have much grain and so, I discard that idea, but...
Yes, I could shoot today and then order microphen (but I think I didn't see it in my usual online shops, here in portugal.)
My question was more, if I had to choose bettwen this to developers, what is the best? Or what is the less bad to. But since they are both (or if I do rodinal 1:100, if they are) good I will choose one and give it a try. Hope that I do it good. I'll post here the resaults!
Thank you all!

Colin Corneau · Oct 31, 2009

TMax is a good developer for speed and pushes very well...add my nod to that choice, too.

oscura · Oct 31, 2009

mrred said:
Well, I took some inspiration form this and shot some HP5+ at 3200 in 35mm. Not bad I thought. I left it full size for those that want to look.

OM10, 50 F1.8, Olympus Doubler, F4 1/60, Rodinal 1:100 stand inv every 30 min s for 2 hrs.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/peterbcarter/4060395555/

Nice shot i'm actually trying to push a t max at 3200 asas and i saw that the results with HP5 is pretty good

Did you have ever tryed with a tmax ?

++

Oscura°°

Rhodes · Oct 31, 2009

Now the question is, does my small quantitie of t-max is enougth for the development???Oh the agony of the question... Ehehehhe!

PS: It's not, I need 60ml of it and only have 25ml! Well, I will use ilfosol 3 or rodinal...

mrred · Oct 31, 2009

oscura said:
Did you have ever tryed with a tmax ?

I've done some 1600 in HC110 @ 1:100. I have a "camera walk" to do next week-end and I have some TMY to burn. I will shoot at least one roll in anatural light.

rwboyer · Oct 31, 2009

Rhodes said:
Now the question is, does my small quantitie of t-max is enougth for the development???Oh the agony of the question... Ehehehhe!

PS: It's not, I need 60ml of it and only have 25ml! Well, I will use ilfosol 3 or rodinal...

I have used TMAX 1:9 with fantastic results when pushing film I am sure there are about 10,000 places on the web to find recommendations for TMAX 1:9

RB

Rhodes · Nov 10, 2009

Well, finally I can put some of the photos here. I can not access imageshack (which I normally use for uploading photos. Do not know why).
I used my yashica electro 35 gsn, since it had a light meter and I didn't want to fail this. Also it has my fastest lens. But I forgot that the light meter only went to iso 1000, so I push the film to this level and try to figure it out a time for developing.
Since digitaltruth only has info for iso 800 with hp5+ and ilfosol-3, I compared with ifosol-s times of 1600 and then did some math to get a time. Possibly since my method had so many errors, the negs come out with much grain. I use 16m with 1:9 dilution. I think I could have done it better with less time. But the photos here come out very good (for me ) and this two are not from the dinner, since I did not ask yet if the people want their photo's here!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/16416646@N05/4093258876/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/16416646@N05/4092496689/

PS: anyone had any problem accessing imageshack? And also still use IE prior to version 7? What alternative similar site can I use?

BetterSense · Nov 10, 2009

I recently shot a portrait with hp5 sheet film pushed to a metered 1600. I used illford's recommendations and D76, and was quite surprised how well and normal it came out looking.

WolfTales · Nov 10, 2009

Sometimes if you dig your right foot in and back a little, it'll give you a little more traction to help you push.

Andy K · Nov 10, 2009

Rhodes said:
Well, finally I can put some of the photos here. I can not access imageshack (which I normally use for uploading photos. Do not know why).
I used my yashica electro 35 gsn, since it had a light meter and I didn't want to fail this. Also it has my fastest lens. But I forgot that the light meter only went to iso 1000, so I push the film to this level and try to figure it out a time for developing.
Since digitaltruth only has info for iso 800 with hp5+ and ilfosol-3, I compared with ifosol-s times of 1600 and then did some math to get a time. Possibly since my method had so many errors, the negs come out with much grain. I use 16m with 1:9 dilution. I think I could have done it better with less time. But the photos here come out very good (for me ) and this two are not from the dinner, since I did not ask yet if the people want their photo's here!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/16416646@N05/4093258876/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/16416646@N05/4092496689/

PS: anyone had any problem accessing imageshack? And also still use IE prior to version 7? What alternative similar site can I use?

They look good to me.

Rhodes · Nov 10, 2009

Thanks!

mrred · Nov 10, 2009

Ditto

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