9X12cm film developing

[JW PHOTO]

I've been doing my 9X12cm sheet film in trays and it has come out pretty good except for an occasional scratch from handling in the tray. I actually like film hanger better and was wondering if they ever made film hangers for 9X12cm film? John W

 

[Jerevan]

Indeed they did. And you can still buy new ones (at least in Europe).

I guess you can find used ones on ebay.de for example.

 

[JW PHOTO]

Thanks a bunch and I'll start looking for some. I really like 9X12cm since my camera is much smaller than a 4X5in. camera and yet the film size of 9X12cm. is almost as big as 4X5in.. John W

 

[Ian Grant]

I use a Yankee tank it's adjustable 5x4, 9x12 and smaller.

And yes my 9x12 Patent Etui is a fraction of the size of my 5x4 cameras

Ian

 

[JW PHOTO]

I use a Yankee tank it's adjustable 5x4, 9x12 and smaller.

And yes my 9x12 Patent Etui is a fraction of the size of my 5x4 cameras

Ian

Ian,
I have a Yankee tank also, but after trying it with 4X5 (your 5X4) I went back to the tray, I think I might just go back to the Yankee tank. Do you use the four metal pins that come with the Yankee tank to hold the sheets in position? The reason I stopped using the tank was that it ran the cost up on my developer. Now I'm going to be using either Ethols UFG or Xtol replenished and my developer costs will actually be much less that way. This ought to be fun! Besides, I searched the big auction site, both USA and wolrd-wide, and there were no 9X12cm film hanger so the Yankee tank looks like my only alternative for right now. John W

 

[Ian Grant]

Just had to go down the garden to the darkroom to check, there's no metal pins with my Yankee tank maybe I have a later version.

Jobo made 9x12 reels for their tanks, I use old 2000 series inversion tanks which I've had for years and prefer them to the Yankee, mine take two reels of 6 sheets so handier to be able to process a dozen sheets at a time.

You need to search ebay.de for 9x12 stuff, same login details, although Ebay is one huge common database not everything maps across to the different portals, however if you save a Watched Item on .de it's there on ,com or .co.uk etc.

Xtol replenished is ideal for sheet film, I used to split the 5 litre pack into 2.5 litres of working solution and 2.5 litres of replenisher, very easy and consistent results. These days I use Pyrocat HD which is very economic due to it's high dilution.

Ian

 

[JW PHOTO]

Ian,
I could be wrong on the tank. I'm at my cottage far from the darkroom and just assumed it was a Yankee tank, but it's very possible it's an FR tank. As for the JOBO reel.........I have a reel ( the older one), loading 9X12 lip and loader the reel goes on, but no tank. I have never tried to load it so I don't even know if all the components are compatible together, but will check them out when I get home. I remember when I got the reel and loader in a box of junk. I tried to find one of the older 2000 series tanks on eBay and nothing showed up after many days of trying so I tucked it away and forgot all about it until you just mentioned the tank John W

 

[Nokton48]

Hello,

I have JOBO 9x12cm 2509n reels and Multitanks 2, 5 & 6.
If you have the older reels, I think you just need to find the older tank to fit the reels.
I'm just getting started with mine but I think there are a lot of advantages with JOBO.
I'm going to spin mine on an old Unicolor Uniroller for B&W.

I also have the FR tanks.

-Dan

 

[JW PHOTO]

Hello,

I have JOBO 9x12cm 2509n reels and Multitanks 2, 5 & 6.
If you have the older reels, I think you just need to find the older tank to fit the reels.
I'm just getting started with mine but I think there are a lot of advantages with JOBO.
I'm going to spin mine on an old Unicolor Uniroller for B&W.

I also have the FR tanks.

-Dan

Yes, I'm looking for an older tank as I don't think the old reel I have is compatible with the newer tanks. Dan, maybe you can solve the four locking pin question for me. Does your FR tank have four pointed steel pins that go into holes on the adjustable film holder and then through the edge of the sheets to hold them securely in place? John W

 

[Ian Grant]

I think the JOBO LF reels are all the same fit, but newer ones are modified for better flow in rotary tanks. I have pre-2000 series tanks and they are the same inside/outside diameter, as are the centre columns, as my 2000 Series tanks and later rotary tanks.

I prefer Inversion agitation when possible but do have a Jobo outfit I was given, needs some parts though.

Ian

Hello,

I have JOBO 9x12cm 2509n reels and Multitanks 2, 5 & 6.
If you have the older reels, I think you just need to find the older tank to fit the reels.
I'm just getting started with mine but I think there are a lot of advantages with JOBO.
I'm going to spin mine on an old Unicolor Uniroller for B&W.

I also have the FR tanks.

-Dan

 

[JW PHOTO]

Thanks Ian. That's great to know about the tanks being the same size. It's been awhile since I had my CPP2 and thought they were just a little bit smaller. I really wasn't a big fan of the CPP2 for film and got just as good of results by hand-tank method. Sold it for a good price and took that money and bought paper with it. So, I just have to find a taller tank to accommodate the height of the sheet film reel. I prefer inversion agitation also and was another reason I really didn't care for the Yankee or FR tank, along with the large capacity of developer it holds. Now, to hunt for a tank at a reasonable price...........John W

 

[Ian Grant]

John, there is a Series of narrower Jobo tanks as well so you need to be careful to get the right one.

The 4322 tank I have says it takes up to 9x12, it doesn't take 5x4 though, I've just tried it, right diameter just not tall enough.

Ian

 

[Nokton48]

Here are my JOBO tanks

I need to process 9x12cm as well as 6x9cm so JOBO is perfect for my needs.

 

[JW PHOTO]

John, there is a Series of narrower Jobo tanks as well so you need to be careful to get the right one.

The 4322 tank I have says it takes up to 9x12, it doesn't take 5x4 though, I've just tried it, right diameter just not tall enough.

Ian

Ian,
I know the 1500 series tanks I had with the CPP2 would not take the sheet film reel. After searching Ebay I'm in serious sticker shock. I cannot and will not pay the price almost all sellers are asking for a simple plastic tank. I guess I'm to much of a Hollander to shell out that kind of money for something I know should cost about 25% of what they are asking. I will use the Yankee tank or tray until I stumble onto a JOBO tank that cost what it should cost. After having the CPP2 and servicing it twice, I came to the conclusion that it was far overpriced for what it was. I'm not saying it didn't do what it was designed to do, I'm just saying that for that money I can buy a lot of paper and film. I'm drawing up plans for two different developing systems for my 9X12 and 4X5 film that will take much less developer than the Yankee tank. Going to check on the parts I need today and if I'm successful I'll post the results. Meanwhile I'll get by just fine for now. John W

 

[JW PHOTO]

Here are my JOBO tanks

I need to process 9x12cm as well as 6x9cm so JOBO is perfect for my needs.

That's a super setup and I'd be doing 6.5X9 along with 9X12 also. I just have to find a 2500 tank with the red top cheap or what I'm willing to pay. I need one to hold just one 2509 sheet film reel. What is the number of the tank that just holds one reel? I'll keep my eyes open for that tank. John W

P.S. I see you have your print washer right underneath the roller-base setup. That's handy!

 

[Nokton48]

I need one to hold just one 2509 sheet film reel. What is the number of the tank that just holds one reel?

John,
For smaller 6x9cm & 9x12cm film runs, and for stand development, I intend to use my JOBO 2523 Multi Tank 2, which will hold one 2509n LF reel. Also on German Ebay www.ebay.de I bought the end of the JOBO film washer, for 5 Euros. Then I went to Lowes and bought the plumbing hardware to attach it to my USAdarkroom sink faucet. This JOBO film washer is worth getting, but the faucet connection on it will need to be replaced. I doubt it will fit your USA plumbing. The washer is really a worthwhile accessory, washes the film quickly and minimizes water use. You can buy the red lid seperately (you just need to knock out the cog for the processor with a plastic hammer. There is a youtube on how to do it (by CatLabs).

These things are expensive. I took my time and got good fair prices.
-Dan

 

[JW PHOTO]

Dan,
I was just chuckling about you having your JOBO unit on top of your clothes washing machine. I was just making a joke about it being your film washer. Just a little humor. Dan, I have plenty of time and will just have to keep my eyes open for a good deal or fair price also. John W

 

[ChuckP]

If you do a bunch of sheet film sizes the adjustable Nikkor sheet film tank works great. It's also expensive and not that common. I adjust mine to do 9x12cm or 2 1/4 x 3 1/4 sheets.

 

[RobC]

You should be able to get what you want direct from http://www.hewes.co.uk/

i.e. tanks and hangers I think

 

[JW PHOTO]

I'm home from the cottage and checked my sheet film tank. It is a Yankee and it does have four long, sharp metal pins the go through the edge of the film to stop the sheets from moving when developing. I;ll take some pictures tomorrow and post them. Also, my JOBO reel is a 2023 non-adjustable 4X5 and it uses a 4323 tank. So much for that idea! I might just use the Yankee tank with some replenished Xtol or Ethol UFG replenished. I hate going one-shot and dumping that much developer down the drain. With either UFG or Xtol I dump only 100ml or less.

 

[baachitraka]

How to develop 9x12 film if I don't do tray development?

 

[Ian Grant]

Jobo made 9x12 reels for their 2000 series developing tanks. That's the early 2000 models (inversion tanks) as well as the later higher number Rotary tanks. They should be fairly easy to find in Germany as the tanks have been around since the mid 1970's.

I bought a Yankee tank from the US, via this Forum, this is adjustable for 5x4, 9x12, and smaller, I prefer my Jobo 2000 tanks but 9x12 reels weren't distributed here in the UK.

Ian

 

[LAG]

How to develop 9x12 film if I don't do tray development?

Excuse me baachitraka

I'm new in this forum, but as far as I can tell I think that this question should be in another Thread. Perhaps a MOD could put this in a better place, and in that sense, (there was a url link here which no longer exists)

 

[baachitraka]

Yeah. I do not have a real dark room so tray development may not be possible.

In other way I may slap the film to the walls of the developer tank but I will be happy find some holders that fit in 2x120 tank(kindermann).

 

[LAG]

Yeah. I do not have a real dark room so tray development may not be possible.

In other way I may slap the film to the walls of the developer tank but I will be happy find some holders that fit in 2x120 tank(kindermann).

Excuse me baachitraka

I do not think a real darkroom is needed for a tray development to make it possible.

You only have to make sure that the part of the emulsion is the one facing inside (without touching the wall). You can always fold (and keep folded) carefully the sheet inside.