8mm film what type ?

[peter k.]

Well got a call from a stranger, who heard I do my own processing...
Well he has a roll of 8mm, Kodak, most likely color.. that he shot out of a Brownie Automatic Movie Camera, f/2.3 (1960's) years ago.
The only designation on it, besides the tab, that runs around it and is stuck together, with Kodak's color, is a sticker on the side that has what looks like a bar code.. and this number underneath it:
R-15934419+3 Item3
He's sure the film is old.. (aka expired) and he would like to get it developed...
Now there are places that still develop 8mm film.. but first:

1) does anyone have a clue what film type this is?
(Of course if it was Kodachrome, he is totally out of luck.)
2) are there places that will adjust for the special development that it would need to get anything out of it?

Background.. except as a kid, if even then, doubt if I ever shot movies, so know nothing about this format at all! :confused:

 

[Theo Sulphate]

Based on the camera, it's likely to be "regular 8" Kodachrome II film, developed with the K-12 process.

Of course, it could B&W as well, but most people shot color.

 

[peter k.]

Of course, it could B&W as well, but most people shot color.

That's the question, any way to tell, via the band or number?

 

[Mustafa Umut Sarac]

not totally out of luck , kodachromes can be developed to bw , there are many threads at archives. search kodachrome as bw.

 

[Mustafa Umut Sarac]

That's the question, any way to tell, via the band or number?

george eastman house would have an answer , just call them , they are in rochester.

 

[Mustafa Umut Sarac]

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[Mustafa Umut Sarac]

www.apug.org/forums/forum40/58189-kodachrome-b-w-neg.html

www.apug.org/forums/archive/index.php/t-121167.html

www.apug.org/forums/archive/index.php/t-85874.html

www.apug.org/forums/.../58189-kodachrome-b-w-neg-2.html

 

[Mustafa Umut Sarac]

[video=youtube;dyIpU7kIISs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyIpU7kIISs[/video]

This video documents my successful shooting and Caffenol C-M developing of a vintage Kodak Kodachrome II double 8 roll film that expired in May 1967!!! After my semi success with my 1965 K-II film I further refined my technique with using/developing K-II film, I shot this old film at BRUTE MAX exposure f-1.2 in sunny and bright cloudy weather due to aged loss of sensitivity and I developed this film in Caffenol C-M for ONLY 3 minutes at 20 deg C and fixed for 5 minutes in Ilford Rapid Fixer and voila I have beautiful crisp clear well contrasted pictures!!! I have just sent the film off to Nano Lab for digital transfer and should have it on YouTube within the next few weeks but in the meantime I have uploaded photo snaps of this film to my Flickr site for all to see https://www.flickr.com/photos/5185386... . Anyways those who are adventurous like me who wanna shoot/develop Kodachrome II here's the rundown on how to shoot/develop it:

For mid/late 60s Kodachrome II 25 ASA, expose to max f-1.2 in sunny or bright cloudy weather, for 40 ASA I guess bump the f-stop to about f-2.8 or f-4 max. For early/mid 70s era K-IIs I am guessing bump the f-stop up to f-2 to f-2.8 for 25 ASA and f-5.6 for 40 ASA in sunny or bright cloudy weather. They are not absolute rules but are rough guidelines to go by from my experience with 60s K-II film.

Developing in Caffenol C, use the C-M recipe http://caffenol.blogspot.com.au/2010/... and develop for only 3 minutes at 20 deg C and then fix for 5 minutes in a standard fixer like Ilford Rapid Fixer.

As extra advice with Caffenol C-M developing Kodachrome films using the above parameters, for the Kodachrome 25s develop for 6 minutes and for Kodachrome 40 develop for 9 minutes, that worked for my film! Exposure wise, I go by the rule of over exposing 1 f-stop per decade of age, for my 1980 expired K-25 I overexposed by 3.5 f-stops and for my 1989 expired K-40 I overexposed by 2 f-stops, it's not an absolute rule but it's a rough guideline to follow.

 

[cmacd123]

Close examination of a snip of the end of the leader should give you the Colour or B&W info and a good guess as to the type of film based on the colour of the emulsion and the base. Kodachrome often had the leader perforated to show a type code.

A bit of spit will let you scrape off the leyers of the emuslsion to help identify it. I think only colour Negative (unlikely in Regular 8) or Kodachrome had REM-JET.

There has not been printing ability available commonly for Regular 8 for a while, so MOST LIKELY you are talking about a reversal stock.

 

[peter k.]

thanks for the reply, but ended up finding a place that developed 8mm and did cross processing, and gave him the number. Most likely he shipped it, but haven't heard what came about.