6x9 slide projector?

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Hi,

last week I was walking around my village shooting a test film with my newly acquired Fuji GW690III. It was a slide film. Now I got the film back from processing and I'm overwhelmed by the pictures. It was a sunny day, no clouds, blue sky. I want to see them BIG.

I stopped using slide films two decades ago (except for some Kodachrome 25s I got from a friend last year), since I noticed, I wouldn't look at them very often. Setting up the projector, darkening the room, putting the slides into the magazine, etc. was much more hazzle than looking at prints. And prints can be put to a wall to watch them anytime....

But back then it was only 35mm. Now I'm contemplating to shoot again slide films with this camera, but I want to look at them on a really big screen.

Do there exist any slide projectors for 6x9?
And how about frames?

regards,
chris
 

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I have a Slide King. Try searching, and you should be able to turn up a thread on the subject. It's essentially a lantern format projector that can project all kinds of medium format slides vertical or horizontal, but hard to find carriers for it that use currently available slide mounts (you have to cut your own), and most of the lenses available are for auditorium-sized spaces.
 

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Back in the day (1990s), I wanted a medium format projector. There was Kinderman and Hasselblad and Rollei and Leitz, but all were limited to 6x6.
ProCabin and Götschmann made 6x7 projectors. Never saw anything mentioned for anything larger.
 

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If all else fails, you could get high res scans when you have your film processed,and use a digital projector to get the image on screen.
 

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Old-school overhead projector, with some tweaking?

I have one tucked away, should try to mess with it.
 
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I scan my film and project them on my 75" "smart" TV. They look great. Nothing to set up once you created the slideshow. I keep them on a memory card plugged into the TV's USB jack ready to go at a minute's notice. They look great even on smaller sized TV's as well.
 

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Beseler Slide King.

Well, I hade the ideea of using a folding camera the reverse way, meaning to put a light source behind it and project the light onto the slide and using the lens as projection lens, but some one had the ideea of making a slide projector with folding part onto it.
But I couldn't find for sure if that projector can be used for 6 x 9 format, through on the forum is a topic (thread) about it: https://www.photrio.com/forum/threads/beseler-slide-king-projector.88233/
Could this be the answer for large slides? https://www.ebay.com/itm/1843334563...73&toolid=11200&customid=SI_beseler projector
 

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As I reported repeatedly, slide projectors had been made in series up to about 10x10inch format.
 

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Can you move a 240kg projector?

These were used to project images on buildings or stages with the luminous flux to be spread over a large area of film.
 

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The largest format for home projection was 6x6/6x7.
 

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If all else fails, you could get high res scans when you have your film processed,and use a digital projector to get the image on screen.

Sadly, affordable digital projectors fall far short of the pixel resolution in the digital file. 4K with 4096 x 2160 pixels is nowhere close; 8K with 7680 x 4320 pixels or 33 Megapixels, gets closer, but not really affordable for Joe Average. If the goal is to shoot a format like 6x9, one hates to think the 6x9 source file projected is no better than APS-C image projected thru the same projector...the bottleneck to achieving quality is the projector!

I've seen 35mm slides projected. I have a medium format projector. When an audience sees medium format projected, there are 'Oh' and 'Ah' heard from the audience who has only seen 35mm projected. A shame to reduce 6x9 to the limit of the projector.
 
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The largest format for home projection was 6x6/6x7.

Why in the world, if there where 6 x 9 slides they didn't made any projector for that format?
There where some projectors that could project images from printe pages and also from film... can't those project larger fromat slides?
 

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As posted above, the Beseler Slide King, from the 1960s.
But they were designed for auditoriums or at least large meeting rooms.
It is important though that you understand that there probably weren't easily available commercially produced 6x9 slide mounts, unless they were made for commercial presentations, rather than home or school use.
6x9 transparencies would have been used in commercial photography, but I don't know that they would have often been seen mounted as slides.
 

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Why in the world, if there where 6 x 9 slides they didn't made any projector for that format?
There where some projectors that could project images from printe pages and also from film... can't those project larger fromat slides?

Because the market seemed the European manufacturers too small.
(Interesting to learn that US manufacturers thought different.)

Strange enough today you can buy such brand new. But still I would not call this homeprojection anymore at a price of 6000€.
 
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There where some projectors that could project images from printe pages and also from film... can't those project larger fromat slides?

Theses devices are called epidiascopes.
The size of the reflective image is always larger than the size of the transmissive image.

Yes, there were epidiascopes that took up to 9x12 slides. But again I would not call these homeprojectors, with 100kg, let alone the price.
 
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6x9 transparencies would have been used in commercial photography, but I don't know that they would have often been seen mounted as slides.
Longtime sources of medium format slide mounts never went above 6x7 format size, IIRC. Indeed, and apparent recent news that Gepe and perhaps certain others in the slide mount manufacturing business seem to be stopping production make the projection of medium format more shakey in viability (although searching the web I have not corroborated this rumor). I have lots of Gepe 645 glass carriers, which I do not consider selling off, as a hedge for the future.
 

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Epidiascopes where produced in Romania too. I missed one for about 40 Euros.
Since folding cameras could used 6 x 9 format it is quite ridiculous that no one (or allmost no one) in Europe made home use 6 x 9 slide projectors.
I will look for the models that you mentioned to me. But that American one... it was used for larger space, but as I see, it did had lenses for 10 feet distance. I think I do have 3,3 meters distance avaible in my living room, but I do need a projection screen.
Scanning such slides... no, I do not own L.C.D. tv's.
I'm sorry that I can't give you likes. Bringing this disccusion into the spotlight was nice. I'm thiking I'm on a train trip throught the mountains (train lover since I was kid) to meet ya people and I'm cheering a bottle of beer for you while I'm into a dining car (spiesewagen) or bar car.
 
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