600 Sq. In. neg I made on Saturday

[Terence]

Dang. I'm in San Francisco the week before that.

It's madmen trying things like this that inspires me. Simply awesome.

 

[Len Robertson]

I see a couple of #10 Cirkuts have shown up on eBay. The listings probably weren't triggered by all the Cirkut posts here, but it would sure be a good time to list one if you were trying to sell. I remember Ed who had the used camera store on Aurora Ave in Seattle for so many years saying he could always tell when one of the magazines published an article on a certain camera. Suddenly he would get all kinds of people looking for said camera.

I understand the reality is modern America lives on borrowed money, but the "No payments for 3 months" in both eBay listings strikes me as slightly odd for a Cirkut. I suppose Rent-to-Own a Cirkut is next. Or "The repo man got my Cirkut today". Still, if creative financing helps someone buy these and keep them running, go for it. Likely a better investment than a new SUV or the stock market.

 

[claytume]

It's good to see some interest in the Cirkuts, would be even better seeing some of the younger generation showing some interest. To me it's a bit like comparing modern cars to those from early last century, the old ones can be a lot of fun but their foibles can test you at times.

I fear the young ones with their digital upbringing will disparage the antiquated technology.

Clayton

 

[Len Robertson]

When I was younger, I would have never have believed three things about the start of the new century - the survival, let alone success, of Harley-Davidson; tatoos on women; and anyone on planet Earth doing wet plate photography. I do believe that Cirkut photography will survive.

 

[darinwc]

"I remember Ed who had the used camera store on Aurora Ave in Seattle for so many years saying he could always tell when one of the magazines published an article on a certain camera. Suddenly he would get all kinds of people looking for said camera."

Yeah I sold my Busch Pressman for $400 just after Shutterbug ran an article about it. Nice camera though, and I somewhat miss it.

Anyway Panorama photography is very popular right now. But I think the big Cirkut cameras are just too much for most people to handle. You have to have a bit of crazy in you to try using one of those. (I'm setting up my ebay snipes right now)

 

[Terence]

It's good to see some interest in the Cirkuts, would be even better seeing some of the younger generation showing some interest. To me it's a bit like comparing modern cars to those from early last century, the old ones can be a lot of fun but their foibles can test you at times.

I fear the young ones with their digital upbringing will disparage the antiquated technology.

Clayton

Not sure if 32 years old counts as younger, but there are plenty of folks my age playing around with all sorts of LF equipment (and MF). Engineers are still engineers and are attracted by bright shiny objects with gears and pulleys, etc. The Cirkut cameras are a bit much for me only because of the size of the apartment I live in, and the number of toys I already own (5 4x5's, 2 5x7's, 2 8x10's, 1 8x20, cameras I'm building, lenses in every nook and cranny, and MF too numerous to count). I've been trying to work out how I'm going to print my 8x20 negs. 6' long negs are (almost) a non-starter. Although I'm now working out how large a kite I'd need for the old, beat-up Korona I haven't used in a while . . .

 

[claytume]

Not sure if 32 years old counts as younger, but there are plenty of folks my age playing around with all sorts of LF equipment (and MF). Engineers are still engineers and are attracted by bright shiny objects with gears and pulleys, etc. The Cirkut cameras are a bit much for me only because of the size of the apartment I live in, and the number of toys I already own (5 4x5's, 2 5x7's, 2 8x10's, 1 8x20, cameras I'm building, lenses in every nook and cranny, and MF too numerous to count). I've been trying to work out how I'm going to print my 8x20 negs. 6' long negs are (almost) a non-starter. Although I'm now working out how large a kite I'd need for the old, beat-up Korona I haven't used in a while . . .

Good to hear Terence...........now tell me do you have friends playing around with old equipment like this or do they spend their free time Playstation?

Clayton

 

[Terence]

Actually, I'm a construction manager, so we have even more fun toys to play with. To be honest, the guys playing with Playstation, etc tend to be the married guys. The kids give them an excuse to have it in the first place. It's the single guys who have the disposable income to play with the real toys (cameras, etc). Unfortunately, between woodworking (for making cameras), camping and all my cameras, I barely have room to take on a new hobby in my 720 square foot apartment.

 

[c.d.ewen]

There's no stopping Galli, now:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Kodak-Cirkut-Pa...oryZ4701QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

eBay Item number: 7598152341

 

[jimgalli]

There's no stopping Galli, now:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Kodak-Cirkut-Pa...oryZ4701QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

eBay Item number: 7598152341

Sheesh! I can't get away with nothing! OK, now that word's on the street, does anybody want to buy the working 8?? Gotta pay for the 10 somehow!!!

 

[Len Robertson]

I was tempted to post a snide comment on the winning bidder on the second #10, but C.D. beat me to it. I wondered if Jim was wavering on his Cirkut interest, but now we all know - no hope for him. Seriously, to me that seems like a really good price for a #10, and you can shoot 9 1/2" aerial film without cutting it down. Although, a couple of features of the #8 are being able to use wider angle lenses than a #10, and shooting sheet film and Cirkut with the same camera. So you may want to keep the #8. Also, be afraid, be very afraid -someday a #16 will show up on eBay.

Charlie - I tried to find your email address to tell you about this thread, but I'd lost it. As I recall, you once mentioned starting a Cirkut forum or mailing list. This thread seems to indicate there may be a need for such. Any thoughts?

 

[c.d.ewen]

Also, be afraid, be very afraid -someday a #16 will show up on eBay.

Len: Did you miss the one that went off late last year? As I remember, it lacked the platform and tripod, but was in more-or-less working condition otherwise. I felt very good about avoiding it (guess I was attending Camera Anonymous meetings), until I saw the final price - something in the $2,000 range.

Charlie - I tried to find your email address to tell you about this thread, but I'd lost it. As I recall, you once mentioned starting a Cirkut forum or mailing list. This thread seems to indicate there may be a need for such. Any thoughts?

I mentioned it to Ron Klein, who suggested that the IAPP site was the best place for it. I didn't pursue it after that, having become quite busy. Maybe if we get a groundswell here, we might get something going. I'm hoping to 'semi-retire', yet again, in the next couple of months.

 

[Len Robertson]

Charlie - I too avoided that #16 on eBay. I'm glad an incomplete #16 is unusable, and a complete one very costly. That is what I tell myself whenever one surfaces. For several years I knew of one in Oregon without gearhead which I managed to resist. I would be happy to hear someone else bought it, so I don't have to think about it. The couple of times I seen an actual live #16, it is a wonder to behold. Rather like seeing a full size operating steam locomotive. The jaw drops open and the eyes become glazed.

I suppose a Cirkut group would be rather inactive, until someone new to Cirkuts joined with many questions. As I recall only part of the archives of the old Panoramic group are available on line. I always wonder about newsgroups and mailing lists - who owns the archives and decides where/if they will be available in the future.

 

[jimgalli]

16" Cirkuts seem as out of reach as Duesenberg J's and other things like that that I waste no time coveting. They're for bigger than life folk. Like people who would drive around the world in a Model A Ford, and re-capture San Francisco with a G. Laurence camera 100 years after he did. I'm in awe but unless I discover one in a shed in Tonopah Nevada.........with film, I'll make due with the #10 I just bought.

 

[Ed Workman]

Cirkut film leaders

Jim Wrote:
"....I had to cut 9.5" aerial "recon film down to 8" ....."
Did you make paper leaders for the start and finish?
thanks,
Ed with a yet untried #10 and 100 ft of fim from J&C

 

[jimgalli]

Hi Ed. No. I loaded in the dark and simply taped the film to the take up drum. Cost you about a foot or more of film. Jim

 

[Ed Workman]

Thanks very much
Ed

 

[claytume]

Ed

the leaders are easy to make, just use some black paper from an art store. You can do what Jim did and shoot without a leader but if you use them you can shoot as many rolls as you like. On a good day I would shoot 4 to 6 rolls.

Also you can load different amounts of film on each roll, say 2 each of 4, 5 and 6 feet then shoot the appropriate roll for the job.

Clayton

 

[FoxNewsCritic]

I finally found my APUG password, so I can jump in here. I hope I don't offend anyone by mentioning one of the "other" forums, but we have been having a Cirkut discussion over on photo.net Classic Cameras:
http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00FUVP
Anyone getting Cirkut fever from seeing Jim's pic might want to give it a read.

That was me who posted it on Photo.Net!

Oh, and if you read this in time, take a look at "The Cirkut #10 for sale... Next door!" at http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00FzyK ... There is a nice #10 Cirkut on sale at a "drop auction" storefront just a couple hundred yards from my front door... No s**t!

Turns out it belongs (belonged, if it sells) to a portrait photographer in Blackwood, NJ who is retiring: He dumped all of his cameras, including a nice Crown Graphic; but the star of the show is indeed this baby, and the 12 foot set of tripod leg extensions.

Also, if anyone wants me to walk over and snap photos of any parts of it and post it here, just let me know.

Cheers!
Dan Schwartz

DISCLAIMER: I have no business or any other financial relationship with the seller or seller's agent.

 

[europanorama]

you need an expert from panphoto.com to repair your cirkut 8.

 

[Sparky]

sunny 16... you're taking a laugh at us

What's the technical reason behind the banding?

G

I was just going to ask the same thing... is it some sort of 'roll processing'? (one would assume). Just stop being lazy and get a developing reel already!!! I hear agitating the tank's a BITCH though...! LOL