4x5 Zone VI Bag Bellows - Wisner same?

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Just took the 4x5 Zone Camera out to photograph a tree that needs considerable front rise with my 90mm Nikon f4.5 lens. The tree is about 7 stories tall beside an ancient Plantation House and the walled garden does not allow me to back-up sufficiently to use lens rise. The bellows are really stiff and compacted at focus distance, so I cant really do any other tricks with the front/rear standards, but work fine otherwise for longer focal lengths.

I have what I believe is the last incarnation of the Zone 4x5 camera, built in Newfane, Vermont. I have read that the last generation was slightly different from the prior two generations, but all were built/based on the Wisner 4x5.

I obviously need a bag bellows. Will a Wisner 4x5 bag bellows fit this camera?

I do not see any Zone IV bag bellows on the Evilbay auction site, but there are some Wisner brand available.

Does anyone know for certain if these are identical or how to tell?

Thanks in advance!
 
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Here are the dimension of the standard bellows frames in case someone else needs these measurements. I have emailed Richard Ritter to see if he can supply or recommend a seller.

Bellows Front 1A measurements.jpg
Bellows Front 1B.jpg
Bellows Back measurements.jpg
 

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I've been looking for a bag for my Wisner for some months now and I tried a Zone VI and it did not fit. I think Zone VI was made by two different companies over the years, first Wisner and then Wista, if I'm correct. I think I pick up a Wista bag. It came from B&H, so I was able to return it.
 

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For the record, Zone VI first offered a Japanese featherweight 4x5. Wista, Tachihara, maybe both at different times. Then in the late '80s, Fred Picker/Z-VI had Ron Wisner build for them a more full-featured camera, similar if not identical to the Wisner Technical Field. Some were made until Picker and Wisner had a falling-out. Picker/Zone VI re-engineered the design to be the similar Zone VI Classic; these were made through the 1990s, and Calumet later offered a "lightweight" version with aluminum hardware. The OP is trying to find out if the Wisner Zone VI and the Zone VI Classic share the interchangeable bellows design... we'll find out eventually.
 
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A Wisner will not fit a Zone VI camera.
The only part of the camera that is interchangeable is the lens board and the film holder.
Thing is the sale of bag bellows to camera sale was 1 bag bellows for every 100 cameras sold.
So if you need a bag bellows for a Zone VI or a Wisner new frames would have to be made along with a bellows.
 
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