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Darryl Roberts

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I’ve been stalking this edifice since it was erected.

The Mark II Artist's Viewfinder for this simulated my 480mm lens, which is being mailed to me from SK Grimes. My 4x5 Sinar Norma's bellows can stretch just that far.
  • Is 480mm lens and 480mm bellows draw infinity focus?
  • Do you know of any other concerns I may face?
Thank you.

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If you can get the lens flange 480 mm from the film plane, you should be golden for infinity (objects at least 5000 feet away), and within DOF for any reasonably distant subject at real world apertures. If the lens you're receiving is on the long end of sample variation, however, you might find you can't get a true infinity due to being a couple millimeters short on bellows draw.

A couple ways to deal with this and gain a little room for focusing: Dismount the lens from the board, and add a shim (a couple layers of black felt, for instance) between the flange and the front surface of the lens board when you remount it. This will gain you a couple millimeters, just about enough to account for variation in the lens focal length (maybe). Putting a shim between the bellows and standard at front or rear will gain a little more -- this could be made with 1/8" Masonite from the Big Box store, and one at each end would gain 6+ mm. An extended lens board is the classic method of dealing with "almost enough bellows" -- it makes tilt and swing a little wonky by putting the lens node forward of the movement axis, but you won't need much if any of either for this kind of distant shot and rise and shift aren't altered.

The other classic solution is to install a bellows extension. I'm pretty sure Sinar offered one for the Norma, but whether you can find one when you need it is entirely another question.
 

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Hi Darryl,
How long are your bellows?
I'm only asking as there is a difference between 'maximum' bellows extension and 'working' bellows extension. And if both standards and the bellows are maxed out, there may be too little room for any meaningful camera movements.
Additionally, you're going to need something really solid as a support with everything being so far racked out. I could imagine that the slightest of shakes could be of a different order of magnitude by the time it reaches the film plane. So, prevailing weather conditions could be an integral factor as could film asa.
 

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Regarding focus, I don't know which 480mm lens you have but certainly for those that I can find, the flange focal length is around the 455mm mark if that's any easier to measure.
And Sinar, do indeed make 'top hat' lens boards which will hopefully be enough.
 
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Hi Darryl,
How long are your bellows?
I'm only asking as there is a difference between 'maximum' bellows extension and 'working' bellows extension. And if both standards and the bellows are maxed out, there may be too little room for any meaningful camera movements.
Additionally, you're going to need something really solid as a support with everything being so far racked out. I could imagine that the slightest of shakes could be of a different order of magnitude by the time it reaches the film plane. So, prevailing weather conditions could be an integral factor as could film asa.

It can stretch exactly to 480mm. Thank you
 
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