Ricardo Miranda
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I think Xmas was referring to Ilford.
I think Xmas was referring to Ilford.What brand is that and when was the last time you bought any?
Opening a box of film and finding a black bag should SCREAM do not go further. What would be the point in having a can inside a black bag. Logic says that the bag would be the last thing you encounter before the actual film. Just another example of people not reading the directions.
I made the same amateur mistake with a roll of HP5+, thinking there would be something sealed tight rather than just folded over. Fortunately, only the first roll or two were fogged. The rest of the roll had light damage to the edge markings, but luckily the image area itself did not seem to be adversely affected. I did not make the same mistake with my second bulk roll.A sealed bag maybe. I wish I knew as much as you obviously do.
Tom,A sealed bag maybe. I wish I knew as much as you obviously do.
I don't think the OP is trying make any excuse for his mistake or even blame Ilford. Like me, he probably expected a sealed bag. When I made the same mistake, it was just a case of exuberance, excitement, and curiosity at having received my first bulk roll of film. Also like me, I'm pretty sure the OP won't make that same mistake twice.Tom,
That doesn't make any excuse that you made a mistake.
Now, grow up a bit more and just admit your error.
Don't try to blame Ilford for not sealing the bag when there is a seal on the box and a warning in most of the Ilford boxes I've seen to "open in total darkness".
Learn from your mistakes and get to be a better person.
I haven't ordered any, but B&H shows photos of bulk Arista EDU Ultra films and Fomopan 400 in metal tins. A bulk roll of Eastman Double-X that I recently ordered from Dead Link Removed came in a (recycled?) metal tin. I think two other cinema films Orwo UN54 and N74+ also come in tins: http://www.orwona.com/b-w-35mm-photography-film/I haven't seen 100 foot rolls in cans for eons.
I don't think the OP is trying make any excuse for his mistake or even blame Ilford. Like me, he probably expected a sealed bag. When I made the same mistake, it was just a case of exuberance, excitement, and curiosity at having received my first bulk roll of film. Also like me, I'm pretty sure the OP won't make that same mistake twice.
Yes and I'm sorry for "jumping the gun".I don't think the OP is trying make any excuse for his mistake or even blame Ilford. Like me, he probably expected a sealed bag. When I made the same mistake, it was just a case of exuberance, excitement, and curiosity at having received my first bulk roll of film. Also like me, I'm pretty sure the OP won't make that same mistake twice.
Ilford bulk comes in cardboard boxes with only open in darkroom in eight languages.What brand is that and when was the last time you bought any?
Confirmed IlfordI think Xmas was referring to Ilford.
In the interests of being helpful, I sent a link about this thread to Harman Tech Service using the APUG "Conversation" tool."
I might add that being careful not only applies to new rolls of bulk film. In the past I have been gifted with partially used rolls. I always open these boxes or cans in total darkness to be on the safe side. Often the giver is not sure of the condition of the roll whether in a bag or not.
Thanks for listening to the users.I can confirm we are updating the labels on the Kentmere bulk boxes with the statement "Open in Total Darkness"
Bags on both Ilford and Kentmere bulk rolls will also be taped with an "Open in darkroom" seal.
Hopefully this will prevent first time users having these accidents in future, thanks for your input.
Neil.
I can confirm we are updating the labels on the Kentmere bulk boxes with the statement "Open in Total Darkness"
Bags on both Ilford and Kentmere bulk rolls will also be taped with an "Open in darkroom" seal.
Hopefully this will prevent first time users having these accidents in future, thanks for your input.
Neil.
I did the same thing when I first bought a roll of Kentmere 400. Unless you really opened up the bag in bright light it's probably not really screwed up too much, just the outer wraps. Make a few test rolls and see.Sorry I didn't explain very well. The black bag wasn't sealed at all, just folded over. I assumed that there would be a tin inside and pulled out the whole roll! I wasn't expecting the bare negative to be so accessible, and quickly put it back in the bag.
Slight Correction the outer box will have the darkroom safety tape applied not the bag.
Neil
+1Kudos to you, sir. Great customer service!
Ilford (and Harman Kentmere) have been packaged in a two part box and bag for quite some time now, as are most microfilms. I it says "open only in total darkness" on the box. Most films today are also on cores rather than daylight type spools. Exceptions include some microfilms and "Eyemo" 100ft. loads of movie stock. As others have posted, raw film is pretty opaque so you'll be good a few feet into the roll with possible a bit of edge exposure through sprocket holes.
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