Want to Buy 250mm Imagon discs / tea strainers / 360 ND filter

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I'm looking for discs (or a hood / ND filter) for a 250mm 5.8 Imagon in barrel. Let me know what you've got!

Might also be interested in a hood or filter for a 360 Imagon if anyone has something.

Thanks for reading, have a good day wherever you are!
 

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Good luck. I have been searching for one disk for years. You need to specify the diameter of the disk and ND filter since there are several sizes available and only one size will fit yours.
 
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Sirius, thanks for your post! Also, maybe you didn't see a pm I sent you on LFF (I saw you've been looking for these discs and wondered if you could help me with the size of the smaller holes on the discs you have - I've made some discs out of black card).

The outer diameter of the barrel I have is 66.6mm - the inner diameter, where discs would be pushed into place, is 63.7mm.
 

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For each focal length and lens diameter to holes in the disks are different sizes. There in one hole in the center and closable holes in concentric rings.
 

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I don't like the effect of the 'tea strainer' discs when the outer holes are opened. I would find a lens cap that fits and buy few to make single (center) hole covers of proper sizes. But that's just me.
 

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The more the small holes are open, the more the aberrations cause a softening of the subject.
 
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I don't like the effect of the 'tea strainer' discs when the outer holes are opened. I would find a lens cap that fits and buy few to make single (center) hole covers of proper sizes. But that's just me.

Yes, that's the way I've gone at it too - thought I might as well post an ad here for discs too, if you don't ask, you don't get.

Surprisingly I found a lid from a plastic gravy pot that fits perfectly over the outside of the barrel. Before any other Imagon 250 in barrel owners get excited about this source of cheap lens caps, it's a fairly obscure brand from South Africa that my wife bought for me on a business trip in Singapore. The gravy was terrible, but at least the pot has found a use. I digress.

After cutting out the inner part it does a good job of holding black paper discs in place at the front of the barrel, close to where the custom built discs would have fitted in place.

It's a bit tricky to find out exactly what size the holes should be for a given H stop - I thought if someone else has a 250mm Imagon it should be possible to just copy the size of the holes in their discs, the pattern of the holes is simple to copy. Anyway, I can make any old pattern that I can cut and see how weird it gets. I read an old post on LF forum where someone suggested making a disc that covers the centre of the aperture (a circular bit of card held in place with some thread) to make the lens go into fuzz overdrive. I've done something similar, it's pretty fuzzy (of course). The focus changes with those discs, so it's fairly difficult to figure out if it's fuzzier than using the empty barrel (difficult without actually making some negatives, rather than than messing around like a second rate origami student, that is).

I also made a disc similar to the original Imagon disc (big hole in the middle surrounded by 12 small holes - small holes made with a paper hole punch) and I also didn't like what it does with highlights.

One problem with making diy discs is that figuring out what H / F stop they provide is a bit tricky. I spent some time earlier relearning how to calculate the area of a circle. I'll probably stare at some figures on a bit of paper before deciding f16 sounds right :wondering:
 

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The more the small holes are open, the more the aberrations cause a softening of the subject.

I know but the effect looks odd to me plus they make specular highlights look really strange with star patterns. I'd rather shoot with a wider center aperture without the outer holes.
 
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