220 film in folding cameras question

[Disconnekt]

K, I got some really expired 220 film to sacrifice & see how it turns out, just gonna have to wait a while cuz I sent out the camera to be cla'ed & new bellows made for it/installed.

 

[Donald Qualls]

If you find it isn't more trouble than it's worth to get 16 frames instead of 8 (or 12 instead of 6 in the 616 version) Shanghai GP3 is available, fresh, in 220, and apparently is steadily improving quality control.

 

[Disconnekt]

If you find it isn't more trouble than it's worth to get 16 frames instead of 8 (or 12 instead of 6 in the 616 version) Shanghai GP3 is available, fresh, in 220, and apparently is steadily improving quality control.

Yeah, I was planning to get get a couple rolls of their 120 & 620 rolls & was thinking about getting some 220, but I figured I'd wait & see how the test with the expired roll went before I bought them. Plus at $15 bucks a roll, their 220 is a bit too much to get just to use as a sacrifice/test roll

 

[John Wiegerink]

The same is surely true of a Kodak Reflex II, assuming the 220 spool can be trimmed the way a 120 spool can. You're supposed to start the counter with the red window, but a turns count from a start mark would get you there -- and of course you'd have to do a little dance with the counter after exposing frame 12, resetting to 1 and winding on, then resetting to 1 again to finish the roll.

I had the original Kodak Reflex and Kodak Reflex II many moons ago. I lent both to a friend, and that's the last time I saw him or the cameras. He moved away and I didn't think the cameras were worth the hassle to get back. I really liked the images those cameras made. The lenses weren't "biting" sharp, but they made excellent people portraits. I might just pick up a Kodak Reflex II to play with and sell one of my Rolleiflex cameras. As for shooting 220 film instead of 120? I'll stick with 120 myself. The only reason I used 220 was when I shot weddings, and those days are long gone. Besides, I'd use a Zony A7RII or similar for weddings in this day and age. The 220 I shot in my 620 Monitor and Kodak Medalist cameras was just film I had in the freezer.

 

[guangong]

That's what I was thinking, most folders are red window cameras. Maybe the more expensive ones like the Super Ikontas and Voigtlanders don't use that system.

Some use the red window for the first frame, thereafter auto.

 

[guangong]

I had the original Kodak Reflex and Kodak Reflex II many moons ago. I lent both to a friend, and that's the last time I saw him or the cameras. He moved away and I didn't think the cameras were worth the hassle to get back. I really liked the images those cameras made. The lenses weren't "biting" sharp, but they made excellent people portraits. I might just pick up a Kodak Reflex II to play with and sell one of my Rolleiflex cameras. As for shooting 220 film instead of 120? I'll stick with 120 myself. The only reason I used 220 was when I shot weddings, and those days are long gone. Besides, I'd use a Zony A7RII or similar for weddings in this day and age. The 220 I shot in my 620 Monitor and Kodak Medalist cameras was just film I had in the freezer.

Yes, 12 exposures is about right for MF camera. The shooting style is a lot different than for 35mm, where 36 is about right.

 

[John Wiegerink]

Yes, 12 exposures is about right for MF camera. The shooting style is a lot different than for 35mm, where 36 is about right.

Yes, 12 exp in MF is about perfect for me also. Now, 35mm is a different story. I use bulk loading 35mm and like making my cassettes about 18 to 20 exposures for certain cameras and 36 exp for others. For cameras like my old Leica IIIa with no built-in meter or little window on the back to see what film is in it, I want only 18 to 20 exp or maybe less even. For a more modern camera like my Contax G1 I'll load a 36 exp roll in that. The reason I do that is because I have toooooo many cameras and toooooo little memory left. I forget what ISO and type film is in all my cameras. If I don't shoot the whole roll at one time with the old Leica I'm in trouble. Yes, I've tried to tape the film type on the bottom of the camera, but don't like doing that.

 

[Sirius Glass]

Yes, 12 exposures is about right for MF camera. The shooting style is a lot different than for 35mm, where 36 is about right.

I too prefer MF and I like the 12 exposures. When I shoot 35mm the film sits in the camera until I finally finish the roll.

 

[John Wiegerink]

I too prefer MF and I like the 12 exposures. When I shoot 35mm the film sits in the camera until I finally finish the roll.

Exactly! With my old brain, anything past a week is forgotten.

 

[Sirius Glass]

I too prefer MF and I like the 12 exposures. When I shoot 35mm the film sits in the camera until I finally finish the roll.

Exactly! With my old brain, anything past a week is forgotten.

If the camera is going to sit with the film for a long time take the batteries out of the 35mm SLR and keep them next to the camera.

 

[John Wiegerink]

If the camera is going to sit with the film for a long time take the batteries out of the 35mm SLR and keep them next to the camera.

Yes, good advice Mr. Sirius. I've come across far to many cameras with corroded or worse, battery chambers. Flash units seem even worse for leaky batteries.

 

[xya]

...and don't forget the meters. I had a Gossen Sixtomat Flash ruined by a leaky battery some weeks ago...

 

[Sirius Glass]

... I f**ed up a Nikon a SB800 flash by leaving the batteries in for many years. I had to buy another one.