20 year old Kodak Plus-X Pan 125 . . . .

[John Galt]

When I purchased my Hasselblad 500c recently it came with a large zip lock bag with about 30 rolls of 120 film in it. The previous owner indicated that it was always kept in the freezer in the zip lock bag. There are 10 rolls of Plus-X Pan 125 dated Feb 1997. The rest is various color negative and slide film, not my thing.

I shot a roll with the Hasselblad at the rated ASA of 125 yesterday and hope to develop it today, The only developer I have on hand is a fresh gallon (2 weeks old) of D-76 stock solution.

Any special considerations for processing an emulsion this old? Thanks

 

[Harry Stevens]

I shot in 2014 some Ilord (5 box) of FP4 120 roll film from the 90s and treated it at box speed and as if it was new it worked out great.I had no history on how it had been stored.

With my 1978 expired Tri-X 400 I treat that as ASA 200 with great results so far.

 

[Pentode]

Plus-X is pretty forgiving stuff. Since it was freezer kept, I'd try the first roll at box speed and with the normal, Kodak-recommended processing. It's very probable the results will be printable and you can make any needed adjustments from there.

 

[John Galt]

Wow! I just developed the first roll at the recommended times per Kodak, 7.25 minutes at 22c in D-76. . The negs look frikkin awesome!! A lot of density. Probably a few weeks before I can print them though.

I have not had this much fun in 35+ years.

 

[John Galt]

Actually . . this is the most fun I have had with my clothes on in a loooong time . . .

 

[Ronald Moravec]

D76 1:1 for 7 minutes for condenser enlarger. You might need to give a little extra exposure. + x was my favorite film

 

[MattKing]

Wow! I just developed the first roll at the recommended times per Kodak, 7.25 minutes at 22c in D-76. . The negs look frikkin awesome!! A lot of density. Probably a few weeks before I can print them though.

I have not had this much fun in 35+ years.

That 7.25 minutes seems a bit long to me for the 1997 version.
The 1997 data sheet says 4.5 minutes for 22C D76 stock and 6 minutes for 22C D76 1+1. That is in accord with the Development Dial in my 1980 Kodak Darkroom Dataguide.

 

[John Galt]

1:1 MattKing . . . From this source: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&ved=0ahUKEwiE7eS0jdfSAhWc8oMKHSuZB20QFggmMAI&url=http://www.visionimagelab.com.au/LiteratureRetrieve.aspx?ID=85817&usg=AFQjCNE50V6upPjCYEvFvWVNZvrbQ3dhlg&sig2=qLMxpkbvQdEF4FAUKgxuDw&cad=rja

Maybe the extra time was a good thing . . . can't wait to print because this was taken in a 250 year old Native American and European Settler cemetery . . . . some incredible imagery.

 

[MattKing]

1:1 MattKing . . . From this source: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&ved=0ahUKEwiE7eS0jdfSAhWc8oMKHSuZB20QFggmMAI&url=http://www.visionimagelab.com.au/LiteratureRetrieve.aspx?ID=85817&usg=AFQjCNE50V6upPjCYEvFvWVNZvrbQ3dhlg&sig2=qLMxpkbvQdEF4FAUKgxuDw&cad=rja

Maybe the extra time was a good thing . . . can't wait to print because this was taken in a 250 year old Native American and European Settler cemetery . . . . some incredible imagery.

That data sheet (F-4018) is for the final version of the film. Your 1997 film is two versions older.
The version of the data sheet that applies to your film is the September 1997 version of F-8.
The December 2002 version of F-8 is for the intervening version of Plus-X, but the D76 times seem to be the same as the earlier ones.
The official Kodak datasheets for Plus-X are no longer linked to from either Eastman Kodak's site, or Kodak Alaris' site (where there are links for current products).
There are, however, some remnants of links that still work.
The links to the 1997 and 2002 version of the Plus-X datasheet can be found through Tim Gray's excellent 125px website - see the Tech Docs link therein: http://125px.com/techdocs/

 

[John Galt]

That data sheet (F-4018) is for the final version of the film. Your 1997 film is two versions older.
The version of the data sheet that applies to your film is the September 1997 version of F-8.
The December 2002 version of F-8 is for the intervening version of Plus-X, but the D76 times seem to be the same as the earlier ones.
The official Kodak datasheets for Plus-X are no longer linked to from either Eastman Kodak's site, or Kodak Alaris' site (where there are links for current products).
There are, however, some remnants of links that still work.
The links to the 1997 and 2002 version of the Plus-X datasheet can be found through Tim Gray's excellent 125px website - see the Tech Docs link therein: http://125px.com/techdocs/

MattKing, thank you so much for that link. I am and will be for a while a miserable lower than whale poop noob. I will do the next roll according to this document, 6 mins @ 22c for comparison. I love the Hasselblad 500c. It makes me slow down compared to the 35mm Pentax MX or K1000 I usually use,

 

[MattKing]

I am and will be for a while a miserable lower than whale poop noob.

Hey, don't beat yourself up.
It is confusing! And if you haven't been there when the films changed, you wouldn't think to check.
One lesson to take from this though is to pay close attention to the exact and full name of the film - it is always more than just "Plus-X" (or "T-Max" or "Tri-X"). As they change versions, they modify the name. And the description of the film in the appropriate data sheet will match that revised name.

 

[Pentode]

Wow! I just developed the first roll at the recommended times per Kodak, 7.25 minutes at 22c in D-76. . The negs look frikkin awesome!! A lot of density. Probably a few weeks before I can print them though. I have not had this much fun in 35+ years.

Great to hear it worked out - looking forward to seeing the results!