127 film too wide for a Paterson Reel?

[AgX]

If you can make the reel 1 mm wider, the standard film will still load correctly; there's much more than 1mm depth of the grooves on the plates. And 1mm is just about what's needed for this over-width film.

It may not only be the depth of the slits. But once you widen the notches at the center collumn you introduce play, which may be annoying at inserting /spooling reguler sized film. I say may as I have no experience with that model of reel. But one should at least carefully consider if a modification is really worthwhile for just one faulty film left.


But once one could live with it and there should be more of such overwidth film, modifying the notches sure is the neatest approch for such problems and should be kept in mind in general.

 

[Donald Qualls]

That's a very reasonable concern. The other option is to use the reel set for 120.

"What!?"

You need a roll of fixed-out 120 film for this; in the dark, you'll start the 120 film into the reel, then tape the end of the 127 to it, emulsion out. Feed the combined films in together until you come to the end of the 127, and tape that down to the 120 as well, and finish feeding that film in. I've done this for 16mm film (before I made my ABS pipe tank) and it works well enough, especially for a single roll, and the technique is widely applicable for a one-off processing of oddball sizes -- like 121, if you ever stumble onto some, or the 21 mm film I mentioned a while back that that one Soviet spy camera family used.

 

[Brownie_Holiday]

It may not only be the depth of the slits. But once you widen the notches at the center collumn you introduce play, which may be annoying at inserting /spooling reguler sized film. I say may as I have no experience with that model of reel. But one should at least carefully consider if a modification is really worthwhile for just one faulty film left.


But once one could live with it and there should be more of such overwidth film, modifying the notches sure is the neatest approch for such problems and should be kept in mind in general.

I had thought about that if I were going to modify the reel. The tank has two reels. I can do 2-135 or 1-127 or 1-120. So, I reasoned I could modify one reel, then stick them both in the bag. If one gave me trouble, try the wider one. I can't use both at the same time set for 127 anyway. Seems like a reasonable approach if one were to accept over-width film as the norm.

 

[Auer]

Nah. It's one roll, it's now free, and I'll never buy this stuff again. I will shoot the roll, fudge with it and see what happens. If it works, great. If not, no loss. And like I said, I need the practice.

Why practice something you'll never do again?
You already know how to improve things, so improve and then practice.

Nobody practice marksmanship anymore?

 

[Brownie_Holiday]

Why practice something you'll never do again?
You already know how to improve things, so improve and then practice.

Nobody practice marksmanship anymore?

Because we don't know for a fact the second roll is too wide, and I may not be able to tell from measuring the roll.

And...I want to.

 

[Besk]

A little off topic. I have a Nikor reel for 127 film for sale if interested.

 

[Brownie_Holiday]

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