...if the massive price increase of Kodak film will continue in the way of the last 3-4 years. But where this limit is remains to be seen.
KodakAlaris is currently definitely testing the limits, testing the price elasticity to find out how far they can go until shrinking demand will...
Yes, you did. But what we disagree on is the willingness of a certain group of photographers to move away to digital for the work they presently do in film. I do agree with you that a decent chunk of people will in fact walk away from film if it just gets too darn expensive. However, looking at...
Kodak went bankrupt because of digital. So much for their near monopoly of the film industry. You're not a monopoly if there are reasonable alternatives. A bicycle isn't an alternative to an automobile. If prices get too high, even dedicated film users will move to the digital alternative.
...a true speed of 1200 to 1600, but Kodak DX codes it as 3200, it is intended for action not fine arts. I was bit surprised that when KodakAlaris brought TMax 3200 back to the market that they did not market as 1600, with Delta 3200 still on the market I guess they did want seem to seem as...
For those who want to shoot color film, there's not all that much of an alternative though. It's very close to a strict monopoly, and in practice it pretty much works that way. The fact that digital is an alternative doesn't do away with this fact. If there was only one car manufacturer on the...
I have to agree with you based on my experiences with travelling in Asian countries: Before KodakAlaris' massive price increases of the last four years there has been a huge film resurgence in Asia. But that has been severly damaged by this Alaris monopoly price inflation.
In these markets lots...
That's completely false.
https://kosmofoto.com/2024/11/kodak-alaris-announces-price-rises-for-january-2025-but-tri-x-is-getting-cheaper/
In 120 format both T-Max and Tri-X 120 films are rising, with the price of T-Max 100 and Tri-X rising by more than 20%.
It's you that are not paying...
Nope, they simply increase the price to counteract the decreasing sales figure.
If they sell more, the price decreases.
Have you seen any price decrease in recent years?
And distributors - such as KodakAlaris - are interested in increasing sales, because that is how their profits increase.
They obtain zero benefit from decreased sales.
That label though is from after Sino Promise took over.
It was during the latter parts of the KodakAlaris era that the disruption happened - with some production still showing as being in Germany, and some in the USA, and in a couple of cases in both locations, with the one you got depending on...
...had been sitting on the retailer's shelves for a long time.
If, as an example, the label indicated that the developer was distributed by KodakAlaris but made in the USA, it could already be 4-5 years old before it reached the OP.
Admittedly, I'm not sure about whether KodakAlaris ever had...
...at the big picture or having any real insight into the corporation, especially when it is described as primarily funding infusion. KodakAlaris seems to be operating as they have in the past. Looking at their public filings, there has been bit of turnover on their board but that’s not...
Of course, Alan, we all know that.
But for us as film photography lovers the focus and main interest is on their film distribution business, because that is really relevant for us.
...business for Eastman Kodak. They are benefitting from that. It does no harm at all to them, just the opposite!
Now most probably KodakAlaris and maybe also CineStill (we remember their struggle with some respoolers some time ago) have made pressure on EK to stop that.
Because they fear the...
No one has said that.
But fact is that KodakAlaris has increased their prices to the end consumer much more than Eastman Kodak has increased their prices to KodakAlaris.
Besides the evidence for that you get if you talk to film shops and labs, you can see the evidence in all the cases when...
I'm a fan of Reflx mostly - they make some neat products and I've got a few rolls of 800T on the way in the mail - but I think they might be drawing a long bow here.
That said, most of the issue would go away if Kodak (presumably K-Alaris, though I don't care who) would just sell 100ft bulk...
Thanks Brian I knew we could rely on you I shall try and refer to it as such from now on. Just a thought but it might be helpful if we adopted this title as the "new" KA rather than referring to it as KA
Just a thought on my part of course
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...to their input costs, while trying to keep the price they were charging under control. I have no visibility on what price increases KodakAlaris was dealing with, but the motion picture film catalogue certainly has revealed significant increases over a relatively short period of time.
And...
It’s no secret…
https://www.kodakalaris.com/Pressroom/News/2024/Kodak-Alaris-Announces-Acquisition-by-Kingswood-Capital-Management
https://www.kingswood-capital.com/
Yes and therein lies a large debate on business philosophy and the benefits or otherwise of what some may regard as appropriate standards of business behaviour and others as the supremacy of a legal agreement which the new owners to whom I will refer as KA in the absence of knowing who they are...
That's why I mentioned that the new company is in LA near Hollywood. I suspect some of the owners have connections with movie producers who use film. In any case, you can be a film enthusiast and a good businessman at the same time. Also, when companies like Fuji don't meet their demand...
...range. And we are talking about markets with a total population of about 2 billion people.
This growth is now completely gone, killed by KodakAlaris price increases. Even worse, the demand is declining now there.
Respooled film has been a way to at least attenuate the negative effects on...
You realize you're hoping that a worldwide company that monopolized the film industry for a century including digital sensors but went bankrupt anyway being able to make a coherent strategy for the future?
Most probably. And especially now with the problematic monopoly-markup done by KodakAlaris.
But it also looks like American film shooters can be lucky by having special, very attractive deals:
Midwest Photo - mpex.com - is selling Fuji 200 3-pack 36 for $18.95.
So $6.32/roll only!!
And the...
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