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  1. MattKing

    Kodak Financial Situation

    ...with the video is that, to the best of my knowledge, Eastman Kodak doesn't share what portion of the Advanced Materials and Chemicals revenue relates to film or photography. Same applies to Kodak Alaris and film, although the "Kodak Moment" segment is, at least, all about photography.
  2. Alan Edward Klein

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    Is the digital photo craze dead? DPReview.com shutting down.

    ...included in Eastman Kodak corporation's numbers. The guy in the video said Eastman Kodak film sales were $25 miilion but did not include Kodak Alaris sales. Alaris is an independent private corporation, so their statistics are kept rather quiet unlike Eastman which is a public corporation...
  3. Helge

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    Is the digital photo craze dead? DPReview.com shutting down.

    Well I haven’t bothered to find the report so it was an honest question. Would you happen to have a link to the report? Edit. Did a bit of searching. The numbers seems completely intractable to extract. I’d need a screen-dump with an arrow to the number(s).
  4. Steven Lee

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    Is the digital photo craze dead? DPReview.com shutting down.

    Maybe I misunderstood your question, but KA numbers are included in EK's reporting. Alaris is just a distributor, no different from Lomography or Cinestill. They all sell film manufactured by Eastman Kodak.
  5. MattKing

    Kodak Financial Situation

    ...includes the revenue from motion picture film they sell directly or sell to retailers/distributors, and the film they sell wholesale to Kodak Alaris. Again according to the video, Kodak Alaris' annual revenue from film sales to lower level distributors was $30 million dollars for the year...
  6. Alan Edward Klein

    Kodak Financial Situation

    Interesting and well-done video on the background and current situation of Kodak. Apparently, they do $75 million in film sales just a small part of their overall sales. This amount does not include Alaris sales who distribute Eastman Kodak film.
  7. Sirius Glass

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    Kodak committed to making film "as long as there's demand"

    Thank you!!! There are some posters that bring up that subject on 15 second centers and yet they never worked for Kodak or any film company.
  8. MattKing

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    Kodak committed to making film "as long as there's demand"

    Folks - can we please leave the subject of pensions. The fact that a film distribution company called Kodak Alaris is merely one of the investments of a biggish private pension plan in the UK has nothing to do with the availability of film.
  9. MattKing

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    Kodak committed to making film "as long as there's demand"

    Kodak Ltd. was the UK subsidiary of Eastman Kodak, and it was, relatively speaking, huge! It is gone. The only remnant is a relatively large pension fund, which despite being quite large, wasn't large enough to pay the actuarially projected future obligations of the former employees of Kodak...
  10. Alan Edward Klein

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    Kodak committed to making film "as long as there's demand"

    It;s still all very coinfusing. Who is Kodak Ltd. How does Kodak Ltd. make money to pay the pensions of the old Alaris retirees? what happens if there is a shortfall in pension payments to the old retirees and Alaris has to make up the difference? Wouldn't a new buyer of Alaris be responsible?
  11. MattKing

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    Kodak committed to making film "as long as there's demand"

    ...Kodak, but has no other direct connection with any of the Kodaks, past or present. To help, I'll refer to it as Alaris from now on. Kodak Alaris happens to be owned - by way of shareholding - by what was before and now is in effect a pension plan. Kodak Alaris has no connection with either...
  12. Alan Edward Klein

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    Kodak committed to making film "as long as there's demand"

    Frankly, Matt, I really don't understand the arrangement as you described it. I'm sure that's my problem, not yours. My point was if Kodak Alaris's profits provide for pension payments, whether for new or the original employees and retirees, any purchaser of Alaris would take on the financial...
  13. MattKing

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    Kodak committed to making film "as long as there's demand"

    Any pension entitlements that Kodak Alaris employees have as a result of their employment with Kodak Alaris are distinct and separate from any pension entitlements that any of those people may have had as Kodak Ltd. employees. With the bankruptcy, all pension contributions to the old Kodak Ltd...
  14. Alan Edward Klein

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    Kodak committed to making film "as long as there's demand"

    Doesn't Kodak Alaris have a relationship with that pension fund? It seems that the purchaser of Kodak Alaris would then have to take on the responsibilities they have with the Alaris retirees. No?
  15. MattKing

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    Kodak committed to making film "as long as there's demand"

    No - the Alaris retirees are Alaris'/the Kodak Limited/UK pension authority's responsibility. That was the term of the bankruptcy settlement. There still is a huge amount of money in that subsumed fund - just not enough, if the actuarial projections are accurate. Those pesky Kodak retirees...
  16. Agulliver

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    Kodak committed to making film "as long as there's demand"

    If Fuji don't restart in-house production of colour negative film I shall eat one of my most smelly socks. But this announcement from Kodak is probably about as good as it can be. Even the most fervent doubters can rest easy for a few years, knowing Kodak films aren't going to disappear...
  17. Alan Edward Klein

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    Kodak committed to making film "as long as there's demand"

    Wouldn't Eastman Kodak be responsible for the Alaris retirees again? Who needs that?
  18. MattKing

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    Kodak committed to making film "as long as there's demand"

    They couldn't afford it - they don't have the capital nor the ability to absorb the world wide infrastructure.
  19. MattKing

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    B&H Lists XTOl (5L) as Discontinued

    Kodak Alaris sold the photo-chemical business to Sino-Promise Holdings 3.5 years ago. There is product around that has the pre-2019 MSDS, and Sino Promise/post-2020 labelling. Some of that Sino Promise labelling says "Made in EU" and some of it says "Made in China". The variation in...

  20. A
    B&H Lists XTOl (5L) as Discontinued

    An inquiry to Kodak Alaris should clarify this.
  21. braxus

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    Kodak committed to making film "as long as there's demand"

    Wasn't Alaris up for sale? Or did they work something out to stay in the business? I would have thought Kodak would have re- absorbed Alaris back into the main company.
  22. MattKing

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    Kodak committed to making film "as long as there's demand"

    The only thing I know was that the old contract had to be renegotiated because Covid resulted in Kodak Alaris being unable to fulfill its terms. So I'm glad that KA was able to right the ship enough to justify another 5 years.
  23. Alan Edward Klein

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    Kodak committed to making film "as long as there's demand"

    ...the Q2 2023 earnings call on Wednesday (9 August). “We recently renewed our supply agreement for film with our long-term customer, Kodak Alaris in a deal that will run through 2028,” he said. “We are committed to manufacturing film as long as there is demand from the filmmakers and...
  24. MattKing

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    Kodak 100d vs e100

    ...Kodak black and white film stocks. Eastman Kodak makes, markets, distributes and sells motion picture films. Eastman Kodak makes the still films, and sells all of its production to Kodak Alaris, who shoulder all the costs and responsibilities to market and distribute those to local...
  25. lamerko

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    Kodak 100d vs e100

    Yes, I have spoken to official Kodak distributors - they say direct orders and that's it. I've been meaning to make an inquiry directly to ei-order@kodak.com for quite some time - today I did. I ordered 5294 and 7294 (16mm 1R) - quick response from Kodak. It was not clear where they would be...

  26. A
    Kodak 100d vs e100

    Problem in Europe is usually that the official dealers of movie film refuse to sell you Ekrachrome, except if it is for a production you can name. "Please ask for prices. Delivery directly to production only". Alaris seems to want to prevent anybody from rolling bulk Ektachrome. It is a pity...
  27. michaelelliottphotog

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    Wonderpan 400 - whatever next?

    ...Aerocolor IV which again is repackaged to buggery. Neither of these are generally available to the public, so the repackaging is legit. Kodak Alaris (separate from Eastman) market the rest of the Kodak line of films: Gold, Ultramax, Portra, Ektar and Ektachrome, Tri-X, and T-Max. Fujifilm...

  28. A
    Two questions about Kodak

    Anybody using Ilford HC or other HC-110 equivalents? I’ve used HC-110 since forever and given the chaos that is Kodak/Alaris/Sino Promise/etc. it seems prudent to start looking for alternatives. Roughly I want one-shot chemistry concentrate that has a reasonably long shelf life; ability to do...
  29. MattKing

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    Are there 120 films that are not numbered on the paper backing?

    Actually, that horse is quite alive and eager to be ridden. When Eastman Kodak and Kodak Alaris were working together to bring back Ektachrome, one of the design goals was to incorporate changes that improved the ability of the film to withstand the new realities of the distribution system -...

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    The State of Kodak/SinoPromise Chemistry

    Made in the USA. I may have the manufacturing date wrong, it's difficult to read.
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