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  1. koraks

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    Kodak no longer selling E100D directly to customers?

    @MattKing knows that him and I disagree on the bit above - that's to say, we disagree somewhat. I can get behind the 'interdependence' formulation, but I've come to realize that the position of Alaris at this point is a liability to Kodak. The exclusivity agreement with Alaris seriously hampers...
  2. MattKing

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    Kodak no longer selling E100D directly to customers?

    ...makes photographic still film, photographic motion picture film, plus several other products that have nothing to do with photography or Kodak Alaris. Most of its business is elsewhere. Eastman Kodak lacks the resources necessary to worldwide distribute and market the still film output from...
  3. Alan Edward Klein

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    Kodak no longer selling E100D directly to customers?

    What does the bankruptcy deal require them to do regarding film production for Alaris?

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    Kodak no longer selling E100D directly to customers?

    Looks like the bigger resellers such as Andec have this in stock as before. Strict policy seems to be only for Ektachrome, and only in 35mm format. 16 mm film is sold freely. Provia is around, but it is sporadic at best. Often with limitations like 3 rolls per order. I have bought some...
  5. MattKing

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    Kodak no longer selling E100D directly to customers?

    Unless of course it has nothing to do with Kodak Alaris at all, and is all about Eastman Kodak not wanting to have anything more to do with the costs and headaches involved in one-off single roll sales.
  6. koraks

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    Kodak no longer selling E100D directly to customers?

    There's not much that even comes close to Kodak's product offering in terms of quality though. It's virtually a monopoly. On the E6 front, Fuji doesn't keep up with demand, evidently. They might on the other hand also exploit the near-monopoly they have by continuing to raise prices. Maybe...
  7. Alan Edward Klein

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    Kodak no longer selling E100D directly to customers?

    Provia 100 is still around and a competitor to Ektachrome. SO prices have to stop somewhere. There's also negative color film as a competitor. There is competition. Also, don't assume the price for Ektachrome will go up more now that Cine Ektachrome won;t be sold for use as still film. Since...

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    Kodak no longer selling E100D directly to customers?

    ...The terms published on Kodak.com say that Kodak assumes their produce is not resold in altered packaging, differing by any means from the original packaging probided by them. That said, they are lax with 16 mm or 8mm stuff. as there is no Kodak Alaris product costing the triple in the market.

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    Kodak no longer selling E100D directly to customers?

    This is very bad news. This begun when Fuji slide films disappeared from the market, and Alaris hiked the price of Ektachrome in 135 format to about 30 euros per roll. Bulk film costs about one third of this price, if available. The retailers of cine film started to limit sales of 35 mm...
  10. dokko

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    Kodak no longer selling E100D directly to customers?

    ...have been desperate if they've done it for a while. I wonder what would happen if a company wanted to order 10 rolls of 100D for re-spooling. If Kodak motion turns that down, that would be a clear indication that they have some agreement with Kodak Alaris about not competing on the photo market.
  11. Alan Edward Klein

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    Kodak no longer selling E100D directly to customers?

    Maybe Eastman got a lawyer's letter from Alaris's new owners. Or maybe the new Alaris owners have just sat down with Eastman to make friendly arrangements that would benefit both companies over the arrangements they had when Alaris was run poorly in the past. Frankly, the new Alaris owners may...
  12. MattKing

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    Kodak no longer selling E100D directly to customers?

    Kodak Alaris was the motivator for the Ektachrome return, even if it wouldn't have been possible without the motion picture part of the market. I doubt they are making enough of it to divide the master rolls into two categories - one for still, the other for motion picture. But I'm sure there is...
  13. Lachlan Young

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    Kodak no longer selling E100D directly to customers?

    There's another far simpler possible reason: the amount of 35mm E100 that is coated and finished for cinema usage in a given period of time may be quite tightly calculated to cover known orders for feature/ streaming production work + a small percentage to cover commercial/ short/ fine art/...
  14. koraks

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    Kodak no longer selling E100D directly to customers?

    I don't think that's the kind of 'supporting' @Lachlan Young alluded to, at least that's not my interpretation. Does Kodak offer end-user/consumer support on Cinestill products in case people run into problems with them, and/or is Kodak pushed to provide this support by end users/consumers on...
  15. Lachlan Young

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    Kodak no longer selling E100D directly to customers?

    And if people screw up with products being used off-label, then demanding hand-holding from the manufacturer who wasn't recommending using the products in that way in the first place, there will come a point at which taking measures to force people to use the correct product makes sense.
  16. MattKing

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    Kodak no longer selling E100D directly to customers?

    We will be able to tell if and when we start seeing how the availability and pricing shakes out through the other outlets that currently sell Eastman motion picture film. I doubt that Ektachrome is front of mind with Kodak Alaris.
  17. koraks

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    Kodak no longer selling E100D directly to customers?

    Does that automatically mean that Alaris is happy about the arrangement, and that they wouldn't exert pressure on EK to try and stop the bleeding? Also, EK's own interest is evidently there; I don't doubt that their still image products realize a higher EBITDA (for both EK and Alaris) per square...

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    Kodak no longer selling E100D directly to customers?

    I am happy to still film from Kodak Alaris. I think in over 50 years I have (actually) finished a bulk roll 2 or 3 times. I bought a 400' roll of E100 and Double X mostly out of curiosity and to go crazy with a long roll back for a Nikon F2. I think the only conspiracy is Fujifilm 😎 🧐😄
  19. MattKing

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    Kodak no longer selling E100D directly to customers?

    They aren't entitled to a cut - that isn't the deal.

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    Kodak no longer selling E100D directly to customers?

    This also might be Kodak Alaris wanting their cut
  21. MattKing

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    Kodak no longer selling E100D directly to customers?

    I'm going to disagree with you here. When the disruption caused by Covid forced Kodak Alaris and Eastman Kodak into revising the licensing agreement between them - and it did - one of the things that resulted was much more flexibility for Eastman Kodak with respect to making film available to...
  22. koraks

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    Kodak no longer selling E100D directly to customers?

    Ask yourself this question: would it be of any interest whatsoever to make it impossible for indie producers and private individuals to shoot Kodak movie stock in their old Bolexes etc? Tha answer is obvious: of course not. So logically they'll not shut down the distribution channel. They just...
  23. Michael Howard

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    Kodak no longer selling E100D directly to customers?

    I find this a bit depressing, given the virtual monopoly Kodak has on slide film. I was just about to order a 400' roll, which would be about a 4 year supply for me. I will not pay >$20/roll for slide film, so I won't be shooting it, unless I get it from Flic Film or the Atlanta company selling...
  24. brbo

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    ASA 400 colour Film on the way at Flic... according to a you tube short video.

    If Fuji 200 vs. Gold 200 qualifies as different enough, then I'd be more than happy to buy Flic Rectal 100 instead of Kodak Ektar 100, even if it is only one or two EUR cheaper.
  25. koraks

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    Kodak no longer selling E100D directly to customers?

    What gives; most of us mere mortals got it from distributors anyway; not directly from Kodak. I don't see how this is going to make any difference except for the handful who somehow directly bought their film from Kodak. Who were they, anyway? I imagine you must go through a lot of 400ft cans...
  26. MattKing

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    ASA 400 colour Film on the way at Flic... according to a you tube short video.

    Kodak Alaris owns the exclusive right to market and distribute Kodak branded still film. I expect that Eastman Kodak isn't allowed to rebrand or sell to re-branders still film products that are otherwise identical to the films that Kodak Alaris markets and distributes. Otherwise, Eastman Kodak...
  27. brbo

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    ASA 400 colour Film on the way at Flic... according to a you tube short video.

    If Alaris doesn't wake up... we will all need to learn new names of Kodak films.
  28. MattKing

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    Pentax: Two new compact film cameras planned - Pentax 17 announced June 2024

    ...outside the knowledge and experience and expertise of the investment professionals. They might decide to bring in other people to Kodak Alaris management who have knowledge and experience in the film world, and those new managers may have their own ideas. When one invests in something like...

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    Pentax: Two new compact film cameras planned - Pentax 17 announced June 2024

    Alan, that is very unlikely, because: 1. Kodak Alaris does not have the right to use the Kodak brand name for cameras (that right was sold many years ago to a completely different company; e.g. the Kodak Ektar branded plastic fixfocus cameras are not offered by Kodak Alaris, nor by Eastman...
  30. Alan Edward Klein

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    Pentax: Two new compact film cameras planned - Pentax 17 announced June 2024

    We might see Kodak Alaris sell 17 and 35mm cameras soon especially since they're under new management. Pentax may private label theirs for them.
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